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Old 03-16-2016, 05:03 PM
 
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I tend to think the person who results to making insult as the ignorant one. A more educated person would name the beautiful places in queens to prove their point, it shouldn't take you very long given there isn't many beautiful places in queens to begin with.
Here's some education for you google places like BAYSIDE , MIDDLE VILLAGE , FOREST HILLS , LAURELTON , CAMBRIA HEIGHTS , ROSEDALE , JAMAICA ESTATES , FOREST HILL GARDENS , LITTLE NECK , DOUGLASTON , WHITE STONE , GLENDALE , HOWARD BEACH , MASPETH etc are all middle class , upper middle class and wealthy areas in Queens , don't you know that the median income of Queens is higher than Brooklyn , you find more ghetto areas in Brooklyn than Queens , the crime rate is higher in Brooklyn than Queens . Brooklyn has more poverty than Queens , After the Bronx you find more poverty in Brooklyn than Queens , Manhattan and Staten Island

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Old 03-16-2016, 05:14 PM
 
Location: West Harlem
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Here's some education for you google places like BAYSIDE , MIDDLE VILLAGE , FOREST HILLS , LAURELTON , CAMBRIA HEIGHTS , ROSEDALE , JAMAICA ESTATES , FOREST HILL GARDENS , LITTLE NECK , DOUGLASTON , WHITE STONE , GLENDALE , HOWARD BEACH , MASPETH etc are all middle class , upper middle class and wealthy areas in Queens , don't you know that the median income of Queens is higher than Brooklyn , you find more ghetto areas in Brooklyn than Queens , the crime rate is higher in Brooklyn than Queens . Brooklyn has more poverty than Queens .

You are completely missing the point.

Few younger people - especially single younger people - moving to New York would want to live in those areas.
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Old 03-16-2016, 05:25 PM
 
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You are completely missing the point.

Few younger people - especially single younger people - moving to New York would want to live in those areas.
Yes they might want to be in places where there are more noises , more movement , more shaking here shaking there , but not because Queens is not good , because the majority of places in Queens are great but more lay back , peaceful compare to Brooklyn . If you are not well informed you would not know the great neighborhoods of Queens
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Old 03-16-2016, 05:39 PM
 
Location: West Harlem
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Yes they might want to be in places where there are more noises , more movement , more shaking here shaking there , but not because Queens is not good , because the majority of places in Queens are great but more lay back , peaceful compare to Brooklyn . If you are not well informed you would not know the great neighborhoods of Queens
Again - nothing at all to do with the discussion at hand.

I have actually spent quite a bit of time in different Queens neighborhoods, which is how I know that it might not be a good fit for a younger person looking to meet people. I pointed out the same thing about Hamilton Heights. Not so many single younger people want to live in family-type neighborhoods.
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Old 03-16-2016, 05:53 PM
 
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And that's exactly why one sees such a disparity between Center Blvd. in Long Island City and Ave B. in the East Village. Both areas are gentrified, but they have quite different age demographics.
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Old 03-16-2016, 06:25 PM
 
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Again - nothing at all to do with the discussion at hand.

I have actually spent quite a bit of time in different Queens neighborhoods, which is how I know that it might not be a good fit for a younger person looking to meet people. I pointed out the same thing about Hamilton Heights. Not so many single younger people want to live in family-type neighborhoods.
And it's because it's more lay back , a young single person (depend of the person) would want to be in areas where there are a lot of activities , where there are clubs , restaurants , this and that near by . That's my point .
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Old 03-16-2016, 06:43 PM
 
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The hipper parts of Brooklyn by far has the better architecture and the more attractive/historic brownstones. Architecture-wise, the only place in Queens that could really compete with Brooklyn are Forest Hills and the Jackson Heights Historical District.

The hip and/or urban areas of Queens are MUCH less architecturally attractive than most of the hip areas of Brooklyn. Astoria and Long Island City are cool fun places but they are FUGLY with no charm. LIC has some nice new residential towers but it's mixed in with factories, dirty industries and little to no street life. Jamaica, Flushing, Corona and Far Rockaway are all mostly gross-looking and charmless (even though they are not as dangerous as the worst parts of Brooklyn). Much of Bed-Stuy in Brooklyn is the hood but the brownstones are still stunning!

Many of the wealthiest parts of Queens like Howard Beach and Malba look tacky with tasteless McMansions, orange and pink stucco homes and paved over front-lawns... not most people's idea of quaint suburban living (Douglaston keeps it classy though). As for the middle class areas of Eastern Queens (both NE and SE), they fall into that weird category of being not suburban enough to have pretty big homes with lush lawns AND not urban enough to ever become hip, walkable and fun; they also don't have subway access and the commute to Manhattan is pretty long (SE Queens in particular is almost completely devoid of any quality shopping and restaurants which is outrageous for such a populated area)... so there really isn't that many redeeming qualities of Eastern Queens. Personally, I can't stand those awkward looking sideways-Capes and those cheaply constructed stucco/brick multi-family houses that are now popping up everywhere.

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Old 03-16-2016, 08:22 PM
 
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The hipper parts of Brooklyn by far has the better architecture and the more attractive/historic brownstones. Architecture-wise, the only place in Queens that could really compete with Brooklyn are Forest Hills and the Jackson Heights Historical District.

The hip and/or urban areas of Queens are MUCH less architecturally attractive than most of the hip areas of Brooklyn. Astoria and Long Island City are cool fun places but they are FUGLY with no charm. LIC has some nice new residential towers but it's mixed in with factories, dirty industries and little to no street life. Jamaica, Flushing, Corona and Far Rockaway are all mostly gross-looking and charmless (even though they are not as dangerous as the worst parts of Brooklyn). Much of Bed-Stuy in Brooklyn is the hood but the brownstones are still stunning!

Many of the wealthiest parts of Queens like Howard Beach and Malba look tacky with tasteless McMansions, orange and pink stucco homes and paved over front-lawns... not most people's idea of quaint suburban living (Douglaston keeps it classy though). As for the middle class areas of Eastern Queens (both NE and SE), they fall into that weird category of being not suburban enough to have pretty big homes with lush lawns AND not urban enough to ever become hip, walkable and fun; they also don't have subway access and the commute to Manhattan is pretty long (SE Queens in particular is almost completely devoid of any quality shopping and restaurants which is outrageous for such a populated area)... so there really isn't that many redeeming qualities of Eastern Queens. Personally, I can't stand those awkward looking sideways-Capes and those cheaply constructed stucco/brick multi-family houses that are now popping up everywhere.
The hip parts of Brooklyn are Williamsburg, Greenpoint and Bushwick. And the architecture varies, but for the most part, nothing special except for a certain few sections. Brownstone architecture doesn't make a neighborhood hip, it makes it monotonous, and I wouldn't consider brownstone Brooklyn hip. It is too expensive to be hip. Sure, people with money like to buy them, but at the end of the day, they are just people with money. Usually just using their neighborhoods as bedroom communities. That is not the case with Williamsburg, Greenpoint and Bushwick (the ideal hip neighborhoods for the OP). And Astoria has the architecture to match them. Ridgewood, Sunnyside, Glendale and even Woodhaven have superior architecture to Williamsburg, Greenpoint and Bushwick. Forest Hills Gardens, like Brooklyn Heights and Park Slope, could never be hip. Too expensive. Jackson Heights can be. You need different types of peoples to be a hip neighborhood, and brownstone and mansion neighborhoods make it impossible for there to be that varied of a mix of different peoples.
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Old 03-17-2016, 01:23 PM
 
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The hipper parts of Brooklyn by far has the better architecture and the more attractive/historic brownstones. Architecture-wise, the only place in Queens that could really compete with Brooklyn are Forest Hills and the Jackson Heights Historical District.

The hip and/or urban areas of Queens are MUCH less architecturally attractive than most of the hip areas of Brooklyn. Astoria and Long Island City are cool fun places but they are FUGLY with no charm. LIC has some nice new residential towers but it's mixed in with factories, dirty industries and little to no street life. Jamaica, Flushing, Corona and Far Rockaway are all mostly gross-looking and charmless (even though they are not as dangerous as the worst parts of Brooklyn). Much of Bed-Stuy in Brooklyn is the hood but the brownstones are still stunning!

Many of the wealthiest parts of Queens like Howard Beach and Malba look tacky with tasteless McMansions, orange and pink stucco homes and paved over front-lawns... not most people's idea of quaint suburban living (Douglaston keeps it classy though). As for the middle class areas of Eastern Queens (both NE and SE), they fall into that weird category of being not suburban enough to have pretty big homes with lush lawns AND not urban enough to ever become hip, walkable and fun; they also don't have subway access and the commute to Manhattan is pretty long (SE Queens in particular is almost completely devoid of any quality shopping and restaurants which is outrageous for such a populated area)... so there really isn't that many redeeming qualities of Eastern Queens. Personally, I can't stand those awkward looking sideways-Capes and those cheaply constructed stucco/brick multi-family houses that are now popping up everywhere.


LOL You are so RIDIDICULOUS , please give me a break . You are simply not a fan of Queens as a reason you over exaggerated things . Brooklyn is less affluent than Queens that's A FACT , there are more poverty in Brooklyn while the majority areas of Queens are middle class that's A FACTS . You have the south side and large parts of Eastern Brooklyn and central Brooklyn that are lower middle class and poor . You breathe easier in Queens than Brooklyn , Queens is less noisy , you find less ghetto areas in Queens than Brooklyn , less crimes these are FACTS. It is now that you see big investments are being done in some pats of Brooklyn like the downtown and some other parts while large parts of Brooklyn still need a lot of works .
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Old 03-17-2016, 01:28 PM
 
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The hip parts of Brooklyn are Williamsburg, Greenpoint and Bushwick. And the architecture varies, but for the most part, nothing special except for a certain few sections. Brownstone architecture doesn't make a neighborhood hip, it makes it monotonous, and I wouldn't consider brownstone Brooklyn hip. It is too expensive to be hip. Sure, people with money like to buy them, but at the end of the day, they are just people with money. Usually just using their neighborhoods as bedroom communities. That is not the case with Williamsburg, Greenpoint and Bushwick (the ideal hip neighborhoods for the OP). And Astoria has the architecture to match them. Ridgewood, Sunnyside, Glendale and even Woodhaven have superior architecture to Williamsburg, Greenpoint and Bushwick. Forest Hills Gardens, like Brooklyn Heights and Park Slope, could never be hip. Too expensive. Jackson Heights can be. You need different types of peoples to be a hip neighborhood, and brownstone and mansion neighborhoods make it impossible for there to be that varied of a mix of different peoples.
WELL SAID , what he wrote blow my mind . Queens is more affluent than Brooklyn , the areas that are making noises in Brooklyn , by that I mean there are a lot investments that are happening don't represent the majority parts of Brooklyn .
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