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Old 03-15-2016, 07:34 PM
 
Location: West Harlem
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I know the bums are back, begging, at street intersections.


Haven't seen that in two decades.

Really ? Where do you live ?
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Old 03-15-2016, 07:41 PM
 
Location: New Jersey!!!!
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The average cop is no longer willing to risk their job for a citizenry that has turned against them. They should be sitting back doing nothing, especially those who work in low-income neighborhoods where the easiest ticket out for residents is to sue cops.
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Old 03-15-2016, 08:50 PM
 
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Can't blame the men in blue for passive policing ... you asked for it, you got it!


I know the bums are back, begging, at street intersections.


Haven't seen that in two decades.
Where have you been? Or perhaps you don't get out much. Beggars have always been around.
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Old 03-15-2016, 08:52 PM
 
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"For some reason" is the thing.

I would guess, on the neutral side, that homelessness has been opened to the rigorous quantification process that has been the case for many other things.
Certainly agree. The homelessness seems to be more economic and less to do with policing as some are suggesting.
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Old 03-15-2016, 09:13 PM
 
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Certainly agree. The homelessness seems to be more economic and less to do with policing as some are suggesting.
Yes, but the NYPD knew where to draw the line so that you didn't have "the homeless" everywhere and being very aggressive much less doing stupid stuff.


Just walked up Lexington Avenue in the 80's earlier tonight and some homeless person was basically sitting on the sidewalk up against a building surrounded by a semi-circle of burning paper. It looked like the witch burnings of Salem. We're not talking about a candle here but a full sized fire.. FDNY and NYPD showed up to put out the fire and take the homeless guy away. When initially asked why he started the fire, guy responded "I was cold".


Remember Rudy G's NYPD was aggressive enough against the homeless you started seeing churches welcoming them onto their steps (especially overnight to sleep) and told the NYPD they weren't to be touched.


Hate to say it but one of the reasons you are seeing so many homeless in NYC especially Manhattan right now is quite honestly because it is so easy. As have been saying for ages each night hordes of persons homeless or whatever descend upon the garbage bags on curb of supermarkets, shops, restaurants, bakeries , anything or place that sells food to get at what is thrown away. And there is much of it.


With food taken care of all you need is a spot to kip out, again of which there are no shortages .


Have also said this before, many of the so called homeless are not totally destitute. Many do receive Social Security, disability, pension, veterans and other benefit checks. The sums however are not enough to afford an apartment in NYC. Years ago these persons could have found a flea bag hotel, SRO or even a room in a boarding house. Large numbers of those places including SROs are gone, and the ones left either aren't that cheap or are full.


I know these persons have money because have seen several local UES homeless men waiting on line at TD Bank. They were conducting transactions with tellers which points to having an account.
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Old 03-17-2016, 06:56 AM
 
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Progressives are generally anti-cop and soft on crime. That has long-term consequences, which we are just beginning to see. We have been down this path before with disastrous results, so I hope that voters wake up and vote these progressives out of office.
Amen brother!
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Old 03-17-2016, 07:07 AM
 
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Shut up! what does blacklivesmatter have to do with this?? It's absurd for you to think that a group of people who are calling out racial injustices & the lack of accountability when a black life in taken by a cop in America, is going to deny, for some odd reason that the city is not dangerous???

Would NYC feel safe enough for you if the nypd went around killing random innocent people of color???
No you SHUT UP!

Black lives taken by cops? You mean like little ol' innocent Michael Brown? Who was some ghetto a$$ thug who robbed a grocery store then rushed the police officer like a football player before the cop rightfully shot him. Oh and by the way, this has ALL been proven as FACT in court. But hey, FACTS don't matter to people like YOU.
Hands up, don't shoot never happened. It was a BS story to change the narrative in an attempt to make the thug (Michael Brown) appear innocent.

You and your peoples want to be made out as "victims" but refuse to take a close look at the flaws in your personalities and character that would lead to such events. So shut the F up with that non-sense.
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Old 03-17-2016, 07:10 AM
 
Location: Bergen County, NJ
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I think it's mostly patrolmen's union hype. They don't like this mayor clearly and they want to apply pressure to him. If you are constantly being told in your union meetings that things are terrible and your mayor has to go of course it's going to influence you. The city does not feel more dangeours to me. I do feel the city is "sloppier" now than it has been in prior years. There is more tolerance of low level offenses and QOL issues and for me that is a real concern. For instance on Fordham road the 3 card monty games have come back with a vengeance.
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Old 03-17-2016, 08:12 AM
 
Location: Bronx
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I think it's mostly patrolmen's union hype. They don't like this mayor clearly and they want to apply pressure to him. If you are constantly being told in your union meetings that things are terrible and your mayor has to go of course it's going to influence you. The city does not feel more dangeours to me. I do feel the city is "sloppier" now than it has been in prior years. There is more tolerance of low level offenses and QOL issues and for me that is a real concern. For instance on Fordham road the 3 card monty games have come back with a vengeance.
I am in agreement with you on this.
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Old 03-17-2016, 09:51 AM
 
Location: New York NY
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I think it's mostly patrolmen's union hype. They don't like this mayor clearly and they want to apply pressure to him. If you are constantly being told in your union meetings that things are terrible and your mayor has to go of course it's going to influence you. The city does not feel more dangeours to me. I do feel the city is "sloppier" now than it has been in prior years. There is more tolerance of low level offenses and QOL issues and for me that is a real concern. For instance on Fordham road the 3 card monty games have come back with a vengeance.
Rep to you. You hit the nail on the head. It's all PBA BS and, as you say, "sloppier."
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