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Old 03-22-2016, 06:37 PM
 
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Has there ever been NYCHA that have been torn down and the people kicked out of recently?

Which projects are most notorious and dangerous in Harlem?
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Old 03-22-2016, 06:49 PM
 
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Has there ever been NYCHA that have been torn down and the people kicked out of recently?

Which projects are most notorious and dangerous in Harlem?

I keep having to answer this question; yes, the Markham Homes on Staten Island.




Some former residents of Staten Island's Markham Gardens not eligible to return | SILive.com


That thing showed how difficult the process is in NYC and why it won't likely be repeated anytime soon.


New York City simply does not have enough spare low to dirt poor income rental housing stock to house all residents displaced from a NYCA project even if only "temporarily".


Since the usual MO is to build a new inclusive/mixed income development (as with Cabrini Greens) a certain portion of current NYCA tenants would need to be found permanent housing elsewhere. Given the current vast waiting lists for public housing as things stand, again this will not happen.
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Old 03-22-2016, 07:19 PM
 
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That thing showed how difficult the process is in NYC and why it won't likely be repeated anytime soon.


New York City simply does not have enough spare low to dirt poor income rental housing stock to house all residents displaced from a NYCA project even if only "temporarily".

Since the usual MO is to build a new inclusive/mixed income development (as with Cabrini Greens) a certain portion of current NYCA tenants would need to be found permanent housing elsewhere. Given the current vast waiting lists for public housing as things stand, again this will not happen.
There is a federal probe into the health and safety of NYCHA properties. No one really knows what the outcome will be, but we can't continue to keep people living in hazardous conditions for the sake of avoiding the topic of displacement.

U.S. attorney investigating NYCHA's federal health claims - NY Daily News

NYCHA union boss wants workers tested for lead after feds launch probe into health issues at public housing - NY Daily News
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Old 03-23-2016, 08:41 AM
 
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This topic should have been made in 1997
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Old 03-23-2016, 09:02 AM
 
Location: New York, NY
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Tell me about it.....in Harlem you can basically walk from Lenox Avenue to the East River on 112th Street and be in nothing but NYCHA - that's a lot....and those that are on 112th Street are pretty bad, maybe among the worst in Manhattan. From crime, to even the state of the buildings, you name it....

Here goes your Harlem:



These people supposed to be happy they can buy $150 sushi now? Bwahahaha the game is ugly.
What it that in the picture? lol

NYCHA still live a hell of a lot better than BILLIONS of others around the world.

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Old 03-23-2016, 11:06 AM
 
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What it that in the picture? lol

NYCHA still live a hell of a lot better than BILLIONS of others around the world.
The tenants of that apartment rigged a contraption consisting of box tape and tin foil to direct their ceiling leak directly to the bucket.
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Old 03-23-2016, 02:08 PM
 
Location: West Harlem
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What it that in the picture? lol

NYCHA still live a hell of a lot better than BILLIONS of others around the world.

Strongly disagree with this kind of position.
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Old 03-23-2016, 02:20 PM
 
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What it that in the picture? lol

NYCHA still live a hell of a lot better than BILLIONS of others around the world.
The difference is UNITED STATES is not a third world country.
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Old 03-23-2016, 02:49 PM
 
Location: West Harlem
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The difference is UNITED STATES is not a third world country.
I mean ... yeah.
And the comparison simply does not stand.
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Old 03-24-2016, 12:00 PM
 
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There is a federal probe into the health and safety of NYCHA properties. No one really knows what the outcome will be, but we can't continue to keep people living in hazardous conditions for the sake of avoiding the topic of displacement.

U.S. attorney investigating NYCHA's federal health claims - NY Daily News

NYCHA union boss wants workers tested for lead after feds launch probe into health issues at public housing - NY Daily News
If the federal government is willing to fund it, they can place those people elsewhere and tear down the projects. They could give project residents Section 8 vouchers and find rentals for them in PA, Upstate NY, Jersey, etc. Then they could tear the projects down and build new housing. This was done in other cities.

Prospect Plaza was a NYCHA development demolished in Brooklyn, to be replaced with new buildings that will even have retail at the bottom.

Prospect Plaza Affordable Housing Rises in Ocean Hill - New York YIMBY

NYC has just done this on a more limited level than other cities, but whenever the federal government gets involved you bet they will do something about this major housing problem. If the NYCHA buildings are unsafe even for EMPLOYEES they need to be either demolished or have major renovations.

The huge project complex in central Harlem just needs to be demolished. Block after Block of project buildings and totally no street retail. Not good for the residents. They may need to do it in stages but something needs to be done.
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