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I wanted to explode and fly off the handle, but you balanced out your comment. I no longer want to attack you, well done. But we will agree to disagree about the FDNY.
I'll never understand the argument that getting or not getting a job with the FDNY is racist. You have to pass a written exam and physical exam. No one is hired by skin color or if you have a vagina or not. Get a good score on the test and pass the physical and you'll have a good chance of being hired.
Traffic agents mostly south asian?
NBA mostly black?
MTA Workers mostly black and hispanic?
Post office workers mostly black and hispanic?
Why aren't those organizations racist?
MTA and USPS foot soldiers are black and Hispanic.
Management is mostly white.
Also, you'd have to break down the MTA.
LIRR, mostly white. Metro-North mostly white. NYCTA, mostly black and Hispanic. MTA SIR, mostly white. MTA B&T, mostly white. MTA CC, mostly white. MaBstoa, mostly black and Hispanic.
I'll never understand the argument that getting or not getting a job with the FDNY is racist. You have to pass a written exam and physical exam. No one is hired by skin color or if you have a vagina or not. Get a good score on the test and pass the physical and you'll have a good chance of being hired.
College admissions also require exams. Yet there's affirmative action and the cap on Asian students at the Ivy leagues.
What's your point?
Ultimately, access and decisions are made by humans and humans have prejudices.
Logically speaking, if you really believe that it's all based on exams then your argument becomes that only whites are qualified to be firefighters. If it is, it's a pretty stupid argument.
There's another argument to be made for access. That whites are mostly the ones taking the exam, hence, mostly white firefighters.
College admissions also require exams. Yet there's affirmative action and the cap on Asian students at the Ivy leagues.
What's your point?
Ultimately, access and decisions are made by humans and humans have prejudices.
Logically speaking, if you really believe that it's all based on exams then your argument becomes that only whites are qualified to be firefighters. If it is, it's a pretty stupid argument.
There's another argument to be made for access. That whites are mostly the ones taking the exam, hence, mostly white firefighters.
Logically speaking if it's exam based only the people who posses the ability to pass them deserve to do the job regardless of race, sex etc.
Logically speaking if it's exam based only the people who posses the ability to pass them deserve to do the job regardless of race, sex etc.
Not sure if you are intentionally trying to mislead people, but FDNY discriminates in other ways. The below summarizes the discrimination towards others. Once you pass, you still have a long waiting list and have to hang out near fire departments to hear about potential openings.
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The lines of qualified applicants are miles long. It usually takes inside tips to find out about openings and apply during an extremely short window. The system is controlled by the unions and the unions are controlled by their existing members. The system is just as unfair to whites who do not have the inside track as blacks who do not have the inside track. Inside track like family members who are firefighters -- not always in the same department, sometimes in neighboring departments -- who hear of impending openings and the narrow window open and close times for submitting applications, and who know about obscure parts of the test and how to answer them.
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