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the metrocard is not linked to one's bank account if one pays/refills it with cash every time. But one can still be tracked everytime one swipes one's card at a subway turnstile or on a bus.
many other mass transit systems have one swipe their cards both when entering & exiting their systems as the rider/passenger pays according to the distance traveled (such as the bart system in sf bay area, the london underground and many others).
Or what if you don't feel it's necessary for the MTA to track your every move?
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exactly. you know how many senior citizens have obama phones? why should one have to posses a phone on their person to ride transit? makes no sense. again. cell phones are too unreliable. this is gonna create a slew of problems. i'm not saying NOT to implement the technology. i'm saying if you're gonna do it, there HAS to be a alternative plan for those who need to ride transit with no phone on hand
exactly. you know how many senior citizens have obama phones? why should one have to posses a phone on their person to ride transit? makes no sense. again. cell phones are too unreliable. this is gonna create a slew of problems. i'm not saying NOT to implement the technology. i'm saying if you're gonna do it, there HAS to be a alternative plan for those who need to ride transit with no phone on hand
yeah, places should never REQUIRE smart phones to get in. That's what the Yankees are doing this year and it's been a disaster for them. Phones as an option are great, but not everyone has one and the service can get cut off, the phone can crash, or the battery could be dead
The alternative is easy, the MTA sells you a one time RFID tag that could be a keychain or a card, and you add money to the account at the machine or online then just tap it on the way in. Done.
yeah, places should never require smart phones to get in. That's what the yankees are doing this year and it's been a disaster for them. Phones as an option are great, but not everyone has one and the service can get cut off, the phone can crash, or the battery could be dead
the alternative is easy, the mta sells you a one time rfid tag that could be a keychain or a card, and you add money to the account at the machine or online then just tap it on the way in. Done.
1. Don't stop trains for "sick passengers" (take them off the train right away)
2. Cops on most packed platforms, immediate summons for holding doors
3. Let train operators blow red lights at low speed when there's obviously no train in front of them[/QUOTE If there is a red signal there is either a train ahead of you or they are going to cross a train in front of you. Another reason could be a track circuit. In the case of a track circuit they used to have you key by it. Unless it is a circuit there is no reason to key by. You are not going anywhere. There is either a train ahead of you or a red over red home ball.which you are not going to key by in almost all situations unless you where going onto a layup track to park the train .
I understood that the MTA plan would have 2 options - tapping a smartcard (I assume similar to the system using by the London Underground like the Oystercard) or a smartphone.
This.
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Originally Posted by Astorian31
LOL. You people are ridiculous. Perhaps all of you should study the topic more before posting ignorant statements and looking like fools. The contract for the vendor that services the metro card expires in 2019. After that contract is up, the cost of maintaining the metro card is going to sky-rocket because its an outdated system, that no-one makes parts for or services. In other words, its a one of kind system that going to require very expensive, tailored service. If anything, the MTA is severely delayed in replacing it, and you people should be pushing for it to be replaced before the current contract expires. Once it expires, the MTA will have to take on even more debt to keep the system running, yet here you guys are complaining about it being replaced. It's pathetic and sad, and part of the reason why we can't have nice things. Not only does the MTA have to deal with corrupt unions, it also has to deal with obstructionist riders/citizens.
Also, to the people missing the token, I'd like to remind them that NYCT saw an explosion in ridership thanks to the Metrocard. Things like unlimited monthly, weekly, and daily passes, free bus transfers, were responsible for the growth in ridership, and none of it would've been possible with the token. Tokens were also more prone to fraud, as it easy to jimmy the system with a piece of string, and it required a lot more service and repair (meaning more cost.) Again, the ignorance of people is outstanding.
This thread should be renamed the idiocy of commuters/riders/NYers.
Agreed.
In Miami, they have a SmartCard system where you can keep the card in your wallet and tap it on the reader, instead of fumbling with it and either missing your train or holding up the other people on the bus. So the result is you get where you need to go faster and more reliably.
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Originally Posted by The Ryu
In the meantime, the MTA should place industrial fans on all train stations during the summer/spring time. (cuz, damn my balls be sweating!) They also should consider splitting up the A train line. A train manhattan 207 st to broadway junction. A2 brooklyn - broadway junction to rockaway.
Then you'd force all Rockaway riders to transfer to complete their trip. What good does that do?
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Originally Posted by chosen_one1
Every time you buy a metro card you are being tracked the minute you swipe your card. That card is linked to your bank account and has it own serial number and if law enforcement wants to they can track you down to see when you swiped your card.
Not if you pay with cash.
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Or daresay I, they could make transit free, a lot of it comes from taxes anyway, there is no real need to charge everyone all the time, it would save everyone a ton of headaches!
The problem is you would have a lot of people using the system for a few stops and crowding it up/slowing it down. And it would make the homeless problem even worse.
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3. Let train operators blow red lights at low speed when there's obviously no train in front of them
They used to be more liberal in "keying by" signals, but they stopped that practice decades ago because there were too many accidents.
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