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Old 04-19-2016, 05:01 PM
 
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If Liang would have "accidentlly" killed an unarmed resident in the building he was patrolling...and that person happened to be
a loved one of yours...I guarantee that your response would be different. What does that mean? you think about it.
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Old 04-19-2016, 05:06 PM
 
Location: New York City
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If Liang would have "accidentlly" killed an unarmed resident in the building he was patrolling...and that person happened to be
a loved one of yours...I guarantee that your response would be different. What does that mean? you think about it.
A family experiencing death will always be biased, and most would want no less punishment for the offending party in their eyes

That doesn't mean our justice system should be regulated and tried by victim's families.
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Old 04-19-2016, 05:08 PM
 
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Liang's gun permit should be revoked. He shouldn't even look at a gun.
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Old 04-19-2016, 05:25 PM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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If Liang would have "accidentlly" killed an unarmed resident in the building he was patrolling...and that person happened to be
a loved one of yours...I guarantee that your response would be different. What does that mean? you think about it.
True, but that's why we remove folks (or attempt to do so) having such biases from the judicial process by requiring impartial judges/jurors/etc. Note, while Liang's response in the aftermath of the shooting was shameful and I find it hard to be sympathetic for him, I don't want him punished too harshly either. While certainly unsuitable to be a police officer, the fact that he was out there putting his life on the line to improve our communities should factor into the DA's sentencing recommendation; he just wasn't some old Joe Schmo walking around with a gun who recklessly discharged it. I don't know if NO Jail time at all is appropriate, but its not so out of line that I'm protesting against it either. What I do have a problem with, however, is that the judge in this case reduced the jury's verdict to some lesser charge. Note, the DA is appealing this part of the sentencing, so we'll see what happens.
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Old 04-19-2016, 05:29 PM
 
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fair sentencing. should jailed for at least 1 or 2 years, 5 years seem too much for shooting at the wall.
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Old 04-19-2016, 05:57 PM
 
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This is crap. His conviction was for 2nd degree manslaughter -- recklessly but unintentionally killing someone. That's a class C felony carrying 3.5 to 15 years, which is what he should have gotten. Any non-cop would have gotten that (plus about a million years for weapons offenses). But because he's a cop the system lets him off with a class E and no jail time.

Recklessly: "A person acts recklessly with respect to a result or
to a circumstance described by a statute defining an offense when he is
aware of and consciously disregards a substantial and unjustifiable risk
that such result will occur or that such circumstance exists. The risk
must be of such nature and degree that disregard thereof constitutes a
gross deviation from the standard of conduct that a reasonable person
would observe in the situation. A person who creates such a risk but is
unaware thereof solely by reason of voluntary intoxication also acts
recklessly with respect thereto."

Walking around a residence on routine patrol with your finger on the trigger is reckless.
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Old 04-19-2016, 06:05 PM
 
Location: NYC
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Hopefully this will breed more Ismaaiyl Abdullah Brinsley's.
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Old 04-19-2016, 06:21 PM
 
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Any non-cop would have gotten that (plus about a million years for weapons offenses). But because he's a cop the system lets him off with a class E and no jail time.
An average person would be out of line if he did what Liang did because they're not supposed to be patrolling for crime. But Liang was a police officer patrolling for crime. Big difference. A rookie cop patrolling one of the most dangerous areas in the city.
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Old 04-19-2016, 06:45 PM
 
Location: New Jersey!!!!
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Hopefully this will breed more Ismaaiyl Abdullah Brinsley's.
Agreed, so we can slaughter them. Best case, BLM goes full-tilt so we can wipe them out.
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Old 04-19-2016, 06:48 PM
 
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Refresh me: why did he have his gun out of his holster?
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