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Old 04-20-2016, 04:52 PM
 
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I also voted for Bernie Sanders. I don't think it has to do with progressivism. NYC is also the birthplace of Populism. Lots of folks who on the welfare rolls seemed to have voted for. Much of Clinton support comes from left wing crowd of Wall Street. Also voters are not educated. Some voters do not know who Bernie Sanders is and has not made an impact on democratic voters. Some might also feel that he is too old to run.

As for Trump? I like his honest and blunt rethoric, however Trump is an complete idiot and he will run this country into the ground even further. He wants to build a wall on Mexico? Goodluck with that, that's if he can get NAFTA abolished. He wants to do deport illegal immigrants? Goodlluck with that. He wants to get rid of Obamacare? He is going to have to fight tough and nail with congress and with insurance companies. As for that Wall with Mexico? He works with buildings right here in NYC. Why don't he build is own wall. Trump can not do much or do anything. If Trump wants to make "America Great Again"? He needs congress to abolish the Federal Reserve. If the republican party goes to convention. Believe me republican swing states will vote democrat Hillary. She is going to win this election.
I voted for Bernie too.

At this point it's looking like we'll end up with President Hillary.

I do like the Trump pushed Bush, Christie, etc out of the race entirely.
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Old 04-20-2016, 04:58 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Pelham Parkway,The Bronx
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Bernie voters should unite with Trump voters come the general. Even though Trump is running as a GOP, he's really an independent, as are most Bernie voters. Both want to give it hard to the establishment, the elite and the party bosses. Bernie is being screwed by the DNC because party bosses are the super delegates...and Trump is getting screwed because the RNC is rigging the election by leaving both Cruz and Kasich in the race so they can subdue Trump delegate wins.

Trump will not govern from the far right. He'll be a moderate. Hillary is bought and paid for by corporations and George Clooney. Trump truly cares for AMERICAN CITIZENS. He doesn't need money. This is his biggest and final challenge in life. Come joins us, Sanders voters.
Bernie is not really being screwed by anyone at all but Trump is. The reality is that Hillary has won millions and millions more votes than Bernie and she is rightfully winning in the elected delegate count even without the "super " delegates. If Bernie doesn't get the nomination it will be because he didn't get nearly as many votes as Hillary. This is as it should be.

With Trump on the other hand , the Republicans are out to screw him even though he too has millions and millions more votes than anyone else. If he loses the nomination it will not be because he didn't get the most votes.

So there is no comparison really.
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Old 04-20-2016, 06:14 PM
 
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You mean that all the taxes we pay today are due to the succession of recent socialist governments? Like which? Nixon, Reagan or one or both of the Bushes? Or was it the socialist House of Representatives that levied our current tax structure?
There were quite a few Obama taxes on my tax form. And while all governments tax, socialists promise to raise them even higher.
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Old 04-20-2016, 08:10 PM
 
Location: Aliante
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They're saying 3.2 million people were voter disenfranchised in NY State this primary. Entire buildings and entire blocks in Brooklyn were purged from the roll and couldn't vote because they were told they weren't registered. People also had their voter registration changed with forged documentation prior to this election. I warned about that because it also happened in the Arizona primary and elsewhere.

Then there is the case of the Independent's voting on provisional ballots. There's a lawsuit right now over this situation in NYS. From what I understand their main goal is to get the NY primary changed from a closed one to an open one for the future, but they don't think that's likely. What they believe is likely is they will get the independent votes with the provisional ballots, those told they're not on the roll or that they had changed parties just prior to this primary to have their situation scrutinized and their ballots counted. Typically their ballots are thrown out if they don't find them on the list but the lawsuit is fighting to prevent that from happening in order to make their votes count. If it goes through then it will change the official count after the fact.

Mayor de Blasio ordered an investigation why more than 63,000 registered democrats were dropped from the voting rolls since last fall. There's also a conflict of interest with who's investigating and who's representing the State in this lawsuit as it's the same entity. The city board of elections provided new data that it's closer to 126,000 dropped from the voting rolls.

They talk about it on The Young Turks. LINKS
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Old 04-20-2016, 08:20 PM
 
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Bernie voters should unite with Trump voters come the general. Even though Trump is running as a GOP, he's really an independent, as are most Bernie voters. Both want to give it hard to the establishment, the elite and the party bosses. Bernie is being screwed by the DNC because party bosses are the super delegates...and Trump is getting screwed because the RNC is rigging the election by leaving both Cruz and Kasich in the race so they can subdue Trump delegate wins.

Trump will not govern from the far right. He'll be a moderate. Hillary is bought and paid for by corporations and George Clooney. Trump truly cares for AMERICAN CITIZENS. He doesn't need money. This is his biggest and final challenge in life. Come joins us, Sanders voters.
Trump is literally the definition of ELITE. Trust me Trump supporters, you won't be rich like him and America will not be great again with him in office. Don't vote against your own self interest, again.
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Old 04-20-2016, 11:38 PM
 
Location: Glendale NY
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Trump is literally the definition of ELITE. Trust me Trump supporters, you won't be rich like him and America will not be great again with him in office. Don't vote against your own self interest, again.
Then why bother voting at all? No way am I voting for Hillary, as I would not benefit from a Hillary presidency whatsoever.
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Old 04-21-2016, 01:33 AM
 
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Trump is literally the definition of ELITE. Trust me Trump supporters, you won't be rich like him and America will not be great again with him in office. Don't vote against your own self interest, again.
Say how? I think he's spending his money, OWN millions, and time to try to fix America. You may not agree that his beliefs will fix America but he for sure has intentions to help America. Don't watch his speeches where he's mad. Watch the CNN interview with his family. Youll see a different trump.
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Old 04-21-2016, 02:49 AM
 
Location: Bronx
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Say how? I think he's spending his money, OWN millions, and time to try to fix America. You may not agree that his beliefs will fix America but he for sure has intentions to help America. Don't watch his speeches where he's mad. Watch the CNN interview with his family. Youll see a different trump.
Trump only cares about two things. America and Israel. That is about it. He does care about America, but to fix America's problems is a very risky business. He is a Republican and he wants to lower taxes for the rich. Where does that money for the rich and wealthy continue to go? Probably overseas, in some stocks, or into some shell company. To fix America's problems he is going to have to raise taxes across the broad including fixing America's ballooning debt. Where is Trump going to get the money from to fix America? To borrow made up money from the banks that increases debt even further? Probably yeah. Even though I like the tone of his rhetoric, Trump can not fix America. He wants to build a wall? If he Wants to build a Wall, he should hire some Israelis who build the Wall to contain the Palestinians, to do the same for Mexico. As for that Wall? it is not going to happen. US and Mexico are politically and economically aligned. Also both countries are part of the NAFTA. He also wants to charge tariffs on American businesses that produce American goods overseas. Some suburban soccer-mom or some Hipster that live in the East Village, Williamsburg, San Francisco or et al, will not pay 1000k for an apple iPhone, due to Trumps business idea for American companies.

If I was running for President. I would have laid out a 4 year plan. Also I would talk about raising taxes across the board for all Americans, from rich to poor. Taxes need to be raised to rebuild infrastructure, spur medium income job growth, pay off bond holders, pay off debts to banks, invest in public schools, fix Welfare, Social Security and Academic System. Come up with a healthcare system where government pays for part of the coverage, and patient pays the other share through his insurance company, depending on treatment and or severity. I would also see if abolishing the Federal Reserve is feasible. Reform immigration. Stop destabilizing countries which causes emigrations to EU, US and other high income countries. Due to the nature of Anglo-Saxon capitalism that we have here, folks like low taxes and bigger income check returns.
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Old 04-21-2016, 06:14 AM
 
Location: Manhattan
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Overall SI has 86K Registered Republican vs over 1 Million registered Democrats. Sad that
the voter turnout was so low!
That is an amazing factoid.
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Old 04-21-2016, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Glendale NY
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How does SI have a million democrats if the borough has less then half a million residents?
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