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Old 05-09-2016, 08:27 AM
 
Location: New Jersey and hating it
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As far as NYS is concern, it is a Upstate vs Downstate mentality. LI is grouped in with NYC so yeah, you guys won't get love from Albany either. Lol.
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Old 05-09-2016, 08:53 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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Its something that needs to be done. Most great cities of the world have their subways shut down at a certain time.
But do you gain much from shutting it down for 3 hours nightly in lieu of the FASTRAK program? Between the time it takes to get the power shut off and to clean up at the end, you're only going to have 1 or 1 1/2 hours of production time for each night. It's not enough to get anything meaningful done. If anything, you have to shut it down 10pm-5am minimum and that's probably too much.
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Old 05-09-2016, 08:55 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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I read somewhere before that the city is actually nowhere near it's capacity.

The problem is the distribution of where most of the people tend to be at and the infrastructure there that serves them. Quite a few parts of the city are not crowded at all.

The trains might be filled to the brim in Manhattan but by the time they reach eastern Queens, southern Brooklyn or northern Bronx, there's usually lots of empty seats.
So the solution is to rezone areas in outer boroughs for commercial use and encourage businesses to move.
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Old 05-09-2016, 09:02 AM
 
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The fares are heavily subsidized like most public transportation systems in this country. Funds come from New York State, not the City. And if priorities were changed, enough money can be found for improvements.
Or, maybe instead of depending on the general public for funds, infrastructure should be paid for by its users. Road users should pay the full cost for roads, and subway users should pay the full cost for subways. That way, we wouldn't need to depend on political will to get things done. It has to be paid for somehow. Either its users pay or the costs get passed on to the general public.
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Old 05-09-2016, 10:13 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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Or, maybe instead of depending on the general public for funds, infrastructure should be paid for by its users. Road users should pay the full cost for roads, and subway users should pay the full cost for subways. That way, we wouldn't need to depend on political will to get things done. It has to be paid for somehow. Either its users pay or the costs get passed on to the general public.
Having end users pay directly would still require political will and lots of it. How does a politician convince the constituents that it's the right move and still plan on getting a second term? Look at the outrage over 5 cents for a plastic bag.
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Old 05-09-2016, 11:24 AM
 
Location: Bronx
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But do you gain much from shutting it down for 3 hours nightly in lieu of the FASTRAK program? Between the time it takes to get the power shut off and to clean up at the end, you're only going to have 1 or 1 1/2 hours of production time for each night. It's not enough to get anything meaningful done. If anything, you have to shut it down 10pm-5am minimum and that's probably too much.
But at least for cleaning and doing security sweeps. Thr subway should shut down.
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Old 05-09-2016, 12:03 PM
 
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A large appeal of NYC imo is the 24 hour subway system

And the streets don't need even more people driving on them, it's already hard enough to find parking in residential areas
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Old 05-09-2016, 12:15 PM
 
Location: NYC
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A large appeal of NYC imo is the 24 hour subway system

And the streets don't need even more people driving on them, it's already hard enough to find parking in residential areas
Many NYers who live in NYC don't use it. The whole point of living in NYC is so you can walk or bike to work.
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Old 05-09-2016, 12:20 PM
 
Location: Northeast states
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A large appeal of NYC imo is the 24 hour subway system

And the streets don't need even more people driving on them, it's already hard enough to find parking in residential areas
and Ferry/Bus system
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Old 05-09-2016, 12:24 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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But at least for cleaning and doing security sweeps. Thr subway should shut down.
If the trains are running, you don't need security sweeps.

Cleaning is done with the vacuum trains on the tracks.
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