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Old 02-14-2008, 07:48 PM
 
Location: Bedford Park, Bronx
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so a cop determined a FINISHED basement was illegal but had no problem with a boarding house setup? right
Of course that's not legal either. I'd try to delay the inspector entering the house for as long as possible and give the tenants their notice. Again, talking to a lawyer would also be a good idea.
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Old 02-14-2008, 07:56 PM
 
Location: Bedford Park, Bronx
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why does it need 2 exits?
i live in a studio and that has one exit unless i wanna jump off a 14th floor terrace
It's a fire code, but I don't know why you don't have two exits. Is there a window in the public hallway with a fire escape? But I thought the two exits had to be from your actual apartment, so that if there's a fire in the hallway that prevents you from leaving your apartment, you don't have to jump out the window and splatter yourself on the sidewalk.
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Old 02-14-2008, 08:00 PM
 
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I always thought that certain buildings like high rises -- if they are built out of fireproof materials (like concrete?) that that means a fire escape is not necessary. It's the buildings that are made of wood and brick that require a fire escape. But obviously I am not an expert on this - it's just my understanding of how thing work.
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Old 02-14-2008, 08:04 PM
 
Location: Bedford Park, Bronx
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I thought if you didn't have two exists, there had to be sprinklers--but I'm not the expert either.
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Old 02-14-2008, 08:14 PM
 
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It's a fire code, but I don't know why you don't have two exits. Is there a window in the public hallway with a fire escape? But I thought the two exits had to be from your actual apartment, so that if there's a fire in the hallway that prevents you from leaving your apartment, you don't have to jump out the window and splatter yourself on the sidewalk.
I do not have two exits, and no fire escape. I am going to have to buy one of those ladders you hang out the window. Why do some buildings in New York have fire escapes and some don't?
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Old 02-15-2008, 01:49 PM
 
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It's a fire code, but I don't know why you don't have two exits. Is there a window in the public hallway with a fire escape? But I thought the two exits had to be from your actual apartment, so that if there's a fire in the hallway that prevents you from leaving your apartment, you don't have to jump out the window and splatter yourself on the sidewalk.
no, each floor (not individual apartment) in a multiple dwelling must have 2 means of egress. even in old walk-ups, the secondary means of egress is the fire escape.
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Old 02-15-2008, 01:54 PM
 
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i just bought a two family house with a finished basement with a kitchen and a fullbath. i rented out the whole house as rooms and live in the basement. someone ratted on me, and now the inspectors are on their way. what do i do, my major concern are what the fines would be like, what would i be asked to do?

oh yeah, i also have a court case because the cops came around, noticed i was living in the basement and gave me a summons. WHAT DO I TELL THE JUDGE?
first of all we have to establish if you actually have a basement or a cellar

basement - 50% or more is above grade (ground level)
cellar - 50% or more below grade

a cellar cannot be habitable period. which means no kitchen no bedrooms no nada.

a basement can be habitable, but you must have its legal use established on the certificate of occupancy.

Rooms can only be rented out in buildings that have Class "B" apartment status.

I'm 100% sure you dont have that in a 2 family.

Inspectors from which agency came to your house?

There's a lot of questions you have to answer before you can get some kind of help here.
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Old 02-15-2008, 03:45 PM
 
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so.. you purchased a home. turned it into a sort of boarding house thereby devaluing your neighbors homes (as if they needed help with that), got caught, were warned, did nothing...

and now you want help trying to TALK your way out of your nightmare???

you are every responsible homeowner's nightmare...
point of correction, i was not aware of that before i bought the house, i bought it with that in mind, and my real estate agent gave me false information, just because he wanted to make a sale. he told me as long as i owned the house, i could do that.... so my question is what do i do?
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Old 02-15-2008, 03:46 PM
 
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The owner of the house has the right to live wherever they want. But did you get the proper permit to turn your basement into a residence? Maybe that's why they after you
bought the house like that only a few months ago, it was inspected before the sale, but i wonder how come they didnt notice any violations
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Old 02-15-2008, 03:53 PM
 
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first of all we have to establish if you actually have a basement or a cellar

basement - 50% or more is above grade (ground level)
cellar - 50% or more below grade

a cellar cannot be habitable period. which means no kitchen no bedrooms no nada.

a basement can be habitable, but you must have its legal use established on the certificate of occupancy.

Rooms can only be rented out in buildings that have Class "B" apartment status.

I'm 100% sure you dont have that in a 2 family.

Inspectors from which agency came to your house?

There's a lot of questions you have to answer before you can get some kind of help here.
well, it is a two family b3 code, its considered a cellar because it is below eye level, my main concern is what to do with this court issue, i ve gotten the answer to me having to move out the basement. thank you
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