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Location: Born in L.A. - NYC is Second Home - Rustbelt is Home Base
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Don't know if there is a solution. Everything just keep going up and up. I used to be able to live in Pittsburgh, but the rents shot up like hell. Even in the rustbelt things have gone crazy. I was looking at a 2 Br in Pitts but it was $2600...could never afford it. I was going to say start up a roommate.com but they got one already...
New York City already spends vast sums to make housing "affordable" for certain persons. The state and city have also dragooned private property owners into same by enacting rent control laws that were supposed to sunset, but that goal post keeps moving.....
Fact of the matter is just as with many places in Europe people are going to have to move further out of urban core and find housing where they can afford. That of course would mean creating a more reliable and better transit system that reaches further out of NYC.
Problem with creating "affordable housing" is that once such persons are in they rarely move. Rather they do things to hold onto that apartment regardless of need or whatever.
NYCA has seniors or others living in apartments much larger than their needs. But peeps there seem to think it is their God given right to have extra bedrooms for guests and or family. Rent controlled or stabilized houses often the same.
Know of several middle aged and older RS persons who have homes in Florida and elsewhere but keep their "apartment in town"....
Outside of NYCHA (and even then) affordable housing schemes are a joke. While there may be some sort of means testing for some, the results are same as with RC and RS; once in persons rarely leave regardless of how high their income rises.
Because this whacky city and state have laws making it mandatory to provide for the poor there is a never ending stream of want and misery; all wanting benefits including "affordable" housing.
- Connected through-running and compatible commuter rail trains (NJT/LIRR/Metro-North as one) so that frequencies can be much greater and point-to-point outside of the city limits is thinkable making it so that there's a bit more options in where people can be and how far out people can be in the metro
- Have other cities be better (move to Cleveland everybody!)
- Connected through-running and compatible commuter rail trains (NJT/LIRR/Metro-North as one) so that frequencies can be much greater and point-to-point outside of the city limits is thinkable making it so that there's a bit more options in where people can be and how far out people can be in the metro
- Have other cities be better (move to Cleveland everybody!)
LIRR already operates as if it were a "through" service. Westbound trains go into the West Side Yard once they discharge all their passengers. Some of NJ Transit trains do that going into Sunnyside Yard. It's the tunnels that are really the choking points. East Side Access will help and if the Gateway Tunnel ever gets built, that will help too.
Exactly. At some point when it gets too unbearable for their employees, businesses might think of moving back to the office campuses in NJ.
Actually the work at home revolution has taken pressure off when it comes to employees having to be in the city or even across either river. At least four family members who once worked in mid-town now work from home and only have to come into the city perhaps once a week or whenever there is a meeting/something that requires face time.
One of the worst things to come out of the post WWII era was the large scale abandonment and disinterest in passenger rail transport. European cities largely rebuilt their rail service after the war and as a consequence people can and do travel from far out of the urban core to and from work.
New York City already spends vast sums to make housing "affordable" for certain persons. The state and city have also dragooned private property owners into same by enacting rent control laws that were supposed to sunset, but that goal post keeps moving.....
Fact of the matter is just as with many places in Europe people are going to have to move further out of urban core and find housing where they can afford. That of course would mean creating a more reliable and better transit system that reaches further out of NYC.
Problem with creating "affordable housing" is that once such persons are in they rarely move. Rather they do things to hold onto that apartment regardless of need or whatever.
NYCA has seniors or others living in apartments much larger than their needs. But peeps there seem to think it is their God given right to have extra bedrooms for guests and or family. Rent controlled or stabilized houses often the same.
Know of several middle aged and older RS persons who have homes in Florida and elsewhere but keep their "apartment in town"....
Outside of NYCHA (and even then) affordable housing schemes are a joke. While there may be some sort of means testing for some, the results are same as with RC and RS; once in persons rarely leave regardless of how high their income rises.
Because this whacky city and state have laws making it mandatory to provide for the poor there is a never ending stream of want and misery; all wanting benefits including "affordable" housing.
Anecdotal evidence at best.
Also many seniors by the time they retire don't make enough money to move out of their rent stabilized apartments that they have been living in for decades. There are many service sector people who never made much money, so buying a house or even moving to Florida to rent is just not an option.
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