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Old 05-22-2016, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Bergen County, NJ
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Do what? It is not illegal to do what they are doing, so is volunteer firefighting.
You are free to set up your own community patrols in your neighborhood.
You obviously missed the part where they were paying off cops.
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Old 05-22-2016, 12:31 PM
 
Location: Between the Bays
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These guys are worse than the Israeli army. I'm not sure what the government is going to do about this one.
There is nothing for the government to do, or can do. They are just as fraudulent, just not as competent. My point is that other likewise, but different, communities need to compete amongst them using similiar tactics.
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Old 05-22-2016, 08:15 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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Do what? It is not illegal to do what they are doing, so is volunteer firefighting.
You are free to set up your own community patrols in your neighborhood.
If you have read the article you'd see that it's a bit more then community organizing or "volunteer firefighting"
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Old 05-22-2016, 10:45 PM
 
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Do what? It is not illegal to do what they are doing, so is volunteer firefighting.
You are free to set up your own community patrols in your neighborhood.
I believe the article mentioned some kind of bribe or something like to get gun permits for people or person who will normally be rejected.
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Old 05-22-2016, 10:47 PM
 
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If you think that is corrupt - how about Enron telling its employees the company is still in great shape and continue to buy the company stock knowing full well the next day they would be shut down. All the time pulling their money out and selling their stock. How do you look your employees in the eyes knowing you are screwing them and destroyed their retirement.
Now that is CORRUPT. Did I forget to mention Qualcomm ? You got to love corporations that screw their own employees.
Happened a long time ago, and far away.
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Old 05-22-2016, 10:50 PM
 
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Honestly wealthy secular communities do this with the local cops too. Just look at Long Island cops, and wealthy Northern NJ boro cops. Some have wealthy secular jews or just wealthy people of all religions.
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Old 05-22-2016, 11:34 PM
 
Location: Earth
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Old 05-23-2016, 01:23 AM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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Do what? It is not illegal to do what they are doing, so is volunteer firefighting.
You are free to set up your own community patrols in your neighborhood.
I agree. I applaud the Shomrim. To the extent that certain Shomrim members break the law, of course they should be dealt with accordingly. But this is no different from what should happen to anyone who breaks the law. All in all, I view the Shomrim as a positive force and think that more communities should follow suit.
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Old 05-23-2016, 02:17 AM
 
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same here , great work .
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Old 05-23-2016, 03:36 AM
 
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wealthy secular communities do this with the local cops too.
Yes, but secular communities don't discriminate on the basis of religion or ethnicity.

From the article:
But people also call Shomrim -- as opposed to 911 -- because, after all, cops are outsiders. And outsiders cannot always be counted on to be sensitive to the specific concerns of the religious community, concerns that include the desire/obligation to protect other Jews from the long arm of the law. And so, while the Shomrim are not averse -- and sometimes quite eager -- to help cops nab a suspect who is not one of their own, they can be much less forthcoming when a fellow Jew is the suspect.

For example, back in 2011, the coordinator of the Borough Park Shomrim let it slip to the press that his organization maintained a list of suspected ultra-Orthodox child molesters they don’t report to the police because “the rabbis don’t let you.” ...

This instinct toward protecting members of the community -- and the community as a whole -- is a theme that emerges in stories ultra-Orthodox sources tell about instances where the Shomrim have allegedly discouraged victims of violence or abuse at the hands of fellow Jews from reporting those crimes directly to the police, or even urged Jewish business and homeowners to withhold security footage that might implicate a Jew in a crime.
If a Gentile "neighborhood watch patrol" were to treat Gentile and Jewish suspects differently, Jews would find that "bigoted" and "scary." Well, I find the Shomrim to be bigoted and scary.

The media raked the Catholic Church over the coals because the CC protected child molesters in its ranks. Hollywood even made a major film about it, and honored it with Oscars. But note how silent the media is about ultra-Orthodox rabbis covering-up the child molesters in their midst.

Such stories are at best buried in newspapers or blogs, with one quick mention, and then quickly forgotten. No daily radio talk show reminders, or major Oscar-winning films, as when the CC is guilty.
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