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Old 05-28-2016, 03:37 PM
 
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I am a long time resident and realized there are more cons than pros living here. what is the point of living here anymore?

Cons:
-High Cost Of Living, even in BK, Queens
-Most likely to rent, no affordable real estate to buy or own
-#1 Terrorist Target
-Broke unless make more than $50k-80k+
-Most likely to go under water in future. If asteroid falls in Atlantic ocean. Tsunami will demolish it
-Extreme competition for jobs (people from NJ,CT,Upstate all over the world apply here)
-Need a roommate to save $
-Need 60 college credits to be Police/Correction officer and other jobs
-Homeless/Crazy people, rats, smelly dirty subway
-Illegal Undocumented people have given ID's almost like Citizens to access public places/services
-Traffic,too many cars, Pollution
-Over populated, Tourists etc
-If a deadly flu/virus breaks out, it will infect people fast
-Cold Winters/Hot Summers

Pros:
-Subway system
-Various food choice (who cares? how many are food enthusiast?)
-Entertainment/Broadway (who cares? its not a necessity to live but a privilege)
-Single people/dating
-Night Life (who cares? people over 35+/40 go to clubs?)
-Diverse (who cares? USA is a melting pot in most places)

anyone left NYC and it was a great move? or regret it
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Old 05-28-2016, 03:42 PM
 
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I am a long time resident and realized there are more cons than pros living here. what is the point of living here anymore?

Cons:
-High Cost Of Living, even in BK, Queens
-Most likely to rent, no affordable real estate to buy or own
-#1 Terrorist Target
-Broke unless make more than $50k-80k+
-Most likely to go under water in future. If asteroid falls in Atlantic ocean. Tsunami will demolish it
-Extreme competition for jobs (people from NJ,CT,Upstate all over the world apply here)
-Need a roommate to save $
-Need 60 college credits to be Police/Correction officer and other jobs
-Homeless/Crazy people, rats, smelly dirty subway
-Illegal Undocumented people have given ID's almost like Citizens to access public places/services
-Traffic,too many cars, Pollution
-Over populated, Tourists etc
-If a deadly flu/virus breaks out, it will infect people fast
-Cold Winters/Hot Summers

Pros:
-Subway system
-Various food choice (who cares? how many are food enthusiast?)
-Entertainment/Broadway (who cares? its not a necessity to live but a privilege)
-Single people/dating
-Night Life (who cares? people over 35+/40 go to clubs?)
-Diverse (who cares? USA is a melting pot in most places)

anyone left NYC and it was a great move? or regret it
-I don't even care about the subway being dirty, I'm just glad it's convenient most of the time
-Who cares? There are illegal immigrants in any big city, and at least over here they don't seem to be the source of any real problems.

-I think that's something most people care about, I'm not a foodie but I love trying new foods.
-It's a pretty big draw to me, I'm only 21 and still have many years to be young. Also, many people over 35 go to bars.
-Most big US cities are diverse to some extent, however I think New York's diversity is special.
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Old 05-28-2016, 03:52 PM
 
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-I think that's something most people care about, I'm not a foodie but I love trying new foods.
-It's a pretty big draw to me, I'm only 21 and still have many years to be young.
I didn't mind living in NYC in my early 20s, but now in late 20s. I think settling down is not ideal here and more bang for you buck goes further elsewhere
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Old 05-28-2016, 03:54 PM
 
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we had a 2nd home in the pocono's we were going to retire to but then we realized everything we want is right here in queens where we live .

at first it sounded great moving somewhere cheaper . but then reality struck .

we had no public transportation if we couldn't drive

limited medical faciliity's and specialists

winters were long and cold with nothing really to do except ski and when i am 70 i won't be doing that .

if i wanted to work in retirement the pay was soooooo low . i work 2 days a month here and make more then a weeks pay in pa.

after 5 years there even in the summer we ran out of things to do and that walk around the lake or in the woods just didn't cut it anymore .

yeah , nyc is exp[ensive but we don't regret staying here . every single day we do something different .

opportunity here is far greater . areas are expensive because they are in demand and that demand is usually because the higher paying jobs are here .

keep in mind that social security is based on your work record . the higher pay in nyc leads to a lifetime of higher social security . if you relocate that higher payment stays .

real estate is more expensive here and that is an advantage . a 600k house that appreciates 3% a year on average is a whole lot more then a 150k house that appreciates at the same 3% .

transplants relocate from the tristate area and are far wealthier then the locals in cheapsville once they sell and get their higher ss payments .

just food for thought

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Old 05-28-2016, 04:16 PM
 
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real estate is more expensive here and that is an advantage . a 600k house that appreciates 3% a year on average is a whole lot more then a 150k house that appreciates at the same 3% .
um hell no , i ain't retiring here. lets take very low COL West Virginia for example. 1br goes for like 600/month. accommodating 2 people. and $800x2 people=$1600 (SS)=livable. I don' think transportation would be a problem. can order a taxi service/uber to go once a month grocery shopping. living comfortably rather paying $1400/month rent here= not liveable

I don't think a lot of people can afford a $1/2 million house. bigger the house= bigger the housing yearly tax like $10k/year
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Old 05-28-2016, 04:32 PM
 
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we rent in a very nice building and are quite content but we may buy a co-op next year . i wouldn't want a house anymore .

you wanted to ask why people stay , so i told you .if we couldn't take living in the pocono's long term after experiencing it for 5 years part time , i would never even consider west virginia at any price .
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Old 05-28-2016, 04:35 PM
 
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Traffic is a nightmare, expensive as you can imagine, it's nice to visit, but I wouldn't want to live there. My family couldn't wait to leave many years ago.
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Old 05-28-2016, 05:15 PM
 
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I felt like the OP for a long time, until I got to the point where I started making decent money. To me that's once you break like 75-80K. I moved to NYC because it's the fashion, finance, culture, cuisine and media center of the World. I wanted to be where the action was. Friends back home thought my decision was insane, that I was making a mistake. Wrong.

NYC is much more multicultural than most places, it also offers more freedom of expression than other parts of the country. Every day here is an education... on how people dress, the political climate, what's going on in the world. You are exposed to much more than the average person in the middle of the country.

It really just depends what you want out of life. My goal is to have two properties by the time I'm 65 (30 years from now). I am close to putting 20% down on an apartment here. It will be tiny, it won't be in a "trendy" neighborhood by any means. But it'll be mine and that's what counts to me. The other property I want to obtain is a tiny cabin in the country no more than a 2 hour drive away. It's the perfect lifestyle. The best of both. The only part that really sucks is that I'm going to have work like a slave to obtain it as I'm not a trust fund kid and wasn't born with the silver spoon like the spoiled brats I despise. But that builds something many of them will never have- character.

When I go back home to Metro Detroit I am amazed at how different I've become from my peers who never left. I know someone will call me out for saying this but many of them just seem completely dull, unaware of how insular they are, poorly dressed and sloppy, lazy, and entitled... not to mention "fake nice". I can't talk or conduct myself the same way... you can't throw around 'f' bombs and you can't tell people exactly what you think without them getting horribly offended. The sushi is just God awful. The housing and general landscape is hideously ugly. The roads are falling apart. You can't go out and get wasted and then take the train home because public transit blows (if you even want to call it that, it's a joke). The men are gross with giant pot bellies. The segregation is much more stark. People aren't as social.

The apartments are $600 a month for good reason.

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Old 05-28-2016, 05:39 PM
 
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I am a long time resident and realized there are more cons than pros living here. what is the point of living here anymore?

Cons:
-High Cost Of Living, even in BK, Queens
-Most likely to rent, no affordable real estate to buy or own
-#1 Terrorist Target
-Broke unless make more than $50k-80k+
-Most likely to go under water in future. If asteroid falls in Atlantic ocean. Tsunami will demolish it
-Extreme competition for jobs (people from NJ,CT,Upstate all over the world apply here)
-Need a roommate to save $
-Need 60 college credits to be Police/Correction officer and other jobs
-Homeless/Crazy people, rats, smelly dirty subway
-Illegal Undocumented people have given ID's almost like Citizens to access public places/services
-Traffic,too many cars, Pollution
-Over populated, Tourists etc
-If a deadly flu/virus breaks out, it will infect people fast
-Cold Winters/Hot Summers

Pros:
-Subway system
-Various food choice (who cares? how many are food enthusiast?)
-Entertainment/Broadway (who cares? its not a necessity to live but a privilege)
-Single people/dating
-Night Life (who cares? people over 35+/40 go to clubs?)
-Diverse (who cares? USA is a melting pot in most places)

anyone left NYC and it was a great move? or regret it
There are legitimate pros to living in NYC and I wouldn't be so quick to write them off. I actually appreciate some aspects of life here, namely dining options and gym selection as well as nightlife/social scene.

That said, I think they are outweighed heavily by the const in the form of high COL and high tax burden. In addition, the filth/dirtiness has gotten to me as have the subways. Other cities have systems that are spotless and well maintained while the MTA is an embarrassment.

I'm looking to relocate but will acknowledge that there are positive aspects of life here that I will miss when the time to move comes. That said, I'd be very surprised if I lean towards returning.
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Old 05-28-2016, 06:12 PM
 
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I find it hard to believe that someone who's lived in New York their whole life whould be phased by the dirtiness of the subway.
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