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Old 08-25-2016, 07:17 AM
 
Location: New York City
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Brownsville might not have the highest murder rate, but it feels the grimiest IMO
Why because it's like 90% black or is it because the size of the housing projects?
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Old 08-25-2016, 09:04 AM
 
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Why because it's like 90% black or is it because the size of the housing projects?
Because of the high concentration of housing projects (seemingly higher than Mott Haven even), and the super high police presence.
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Old 08-25-2016, 09:05 AM
 
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I wonder if there is a correlation with how gentrification in that area has picked up this year? Also the overall rent rise in the Bronx.
No way the troublemakers are paying market rate rent
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Old 08-25-2016, 12:45 PM
 
Location: Bergen County, NJ
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No way the troublemakers are paying market rate rent
I was thinking more along the lines of a rebellious reaction from the street characters to what is occurring right now.
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Old 08-25-2016, 07:57 PM
 
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Is the 81st where Brevoort houses are? That area looked grimy.

And yeah the Bronx, especially Mott Haven has been out of control this year.
Yes Brevoort is in the 81
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Old 08-25-2016, 08:35 PM
 
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I went to the Bronx and never went back, too many housing projects in one area. Literally everywhere.

Brownsville 2nd.
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Old 08-26-2016, 09:10 AM
 
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Stop drinking the Brownsville kool aid. Brownsville didn't even record it's first homice this year until June ! It had 0 homicides for the first half of the year, and it's supposed to be the worst? Please give me a break.

Year in and year out, Lower Central Harlem and Upper East Harlem have crapped ALL over East NY and Brownsville (last couple of years Bville has gotten really soft) in per capita crime stats. Yes, you are much more likely to be a victim of crime in Harlem than in North-East Brooklyn.

Only Eastern Bed-stuy churns out insanely high per capita crime stats on the level of Harlem and the South Bronx. That is the worst hood in Brooklyn by far.

My respects to what Brownsville was a couple of years ago. It was legitimately top 3. Not any more, and hasn't been what it used to be (which is a good thing).
Yes. Lower Central Harlem from 105-115 is row after row of projects. West Harlem has gotten a lot better in part because of the major Columbia University expansion. Lower East Harlem is gentrifying, but go up to East 116th street and it is horrible (total crackhead looking people). I would tell people going to East Harlem unless you have to for some important reason you might not want to go North of East 116th Street.

But still developers are buying out Upper East Harlem. They will eventually displace that bad element out of the neighborhood.

As for Eastern Bedstuy, it has more SRO's and social service housing. Western Bedstuy gentrified first.
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Old 08-26-2016, 10:42 AM
 
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I was thinking more along the lines of a rebellious reaction from the street characters to what is occurring right now.
That would be more plausible in somewhere like Bushwick or Bedstuy, there are no visible signs of gentrification in The Bronx yet.

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I went to the Bronx and never went back, too many housing projects in one area. Literally everywhere.

Brownsville 2nd.
Is your experience in The Bronx limited to 5 blocks in Mott Haven?
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Old 08-26-2016, 05:55 PM
 
Location: Bergen County, NJ
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I went to the Bronx and never went back, too many housing projects in one area. Literally everywhere.

Brownsville 2nd.
The entire bronx?
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Old 08-26-2016, 05:56 PM
 
Location: Bergen County, NJ
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That would be more plausible in somewhere like Bushwick or Bedstuy, there are no visible signs of gentrification in The Bronx yet.


Is your experience in The Bronx limited to 5 blocks in Mott Haven?
Not true. There are definitely signs of early gentrification in the Bronx. I live in the Bronx.
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