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Old 06-24-2016, 07:36 AM
 
Location: New York City
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So how is it that the land of savages gets keycard technology as of this month for their subway system and we're still stuck with magnetic strip garbage from the stone age?

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Old 06-24-2016, 07:38 AM
 
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MTA manages a MUCH larger system, which requires more planning. Not to mention budget constraints. However, they have posted a RFP to revamp the system

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Old 06-24-2016, 07:42 AM
 
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MTA manages a MUCH larger system, which requires more planning. Not to mention budget constraints.
Then they should roll it out in phases. Have the readers at only one turnstile at each station and put special metro card machines at select express subway stations. Then year after year expand it to all the stations and make sure there's some sort of card credit transfer option at the machine to get rid of the old cards
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Old 06-24-2016, 07:59 AM
 
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I don't appreciate the OP's condescending attitude towards another city- especially when it is NY's MTA that is the real eyesore of the civilized world.

Chicago CTA has had contactless cards for years.
SF has had clipper for years.

MTA is poorly run organization.
They can roll this out in a year if properly motivated.
They prefer to work with subcontractors and **** away as much money as possible doing as little progress as possible.
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Old 06-24-2016, 08:06 AM
 
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MTA are managed by a bunch of idiots.
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Old 06-24-2016, 08:10 AM
 
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Then they should roll it out in phases. Have the readers at only one turnstile at each station and put special metro card machines at select express subway stations. Then year after year expand it to all the stations and make sure there's some sort of card credit transfer option at the machine to get rid of the old cards
That's not how big projects work man. They first have to come up with a funding source. Then they have to come up with criteria for what they want the system to do. Once you do that you put out a Request for Proposal to various vendors who have expertise in rolling out such a system. Those vendors then come up with a plan, pitch it and submit that with their cost. Then you have to choose a vendor based on cost, feasibility, expertise etc. Then there is the testing phase (which is what you are describing) where you have the new solution installed in certain stations with a phased roll out from that point and a hard deadline that says "every station will have x, y and z by such and such date. Im not making excuses but projects like this are not simple. I was in charge of a technology department for a sizable company that had multiple offices up and down the east cost. Projects there were not simple endeavors, so I can only imagine how the MTA would be.
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Old 06-24-2016, 08:11 AM
 
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MTA are managed by a bunch of idiots.
Not really, they're smart enough to make sure that our dollars fund their pensions and inflated paychecks first. The joke's on us.
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Old 06-24-2016, 08:12 AM
 
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That's not how big projects work man. They first have to come up with a funding source. Then they have to come up with criteria for what they want the system to do. Once you do that you put out a Request for Proposal to various vendors who have expertise in rolling out such a system
You mean that's not how big projects work IN NEW YORK CITY. Welcome to the land of bureaucracy, where you can't do anything without making it a big project. This can easily be done in small steps without making it a huge project with every contractor and union lining their pockets. The funding source can just be the existing metrocard maintenance budget plus a sponsorship deal or small initial card fee
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Old 06-24-2016, 08:15 AM
 
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So how is it that the land of savages gets keycard technology...
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I don't appreciate the OP's condescending attitude towards another city
You mean the place where fans boo'd and pelted the ice with projectiles during a moment of silence for the deceased owner of the Flyers, the city where a Phillies fan vomited on a little girl in retaliation, that same city where people teach their kids to yell "F*** OFF" to opposing fans in the streets? (the list goes on and on)

Yeah no reason there for such a reputation

It's not just an "other" city, it's Philadelphia, easily the most classless city in the union
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Old 06-24-2016, 08:21 AM
 
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Not really, they're smart enough to make sure that our dollars fund their pensions and inflated paychecks first. The joke's on us.
excellent point.


Asia and Europe have been using RFID cards for 15+ years which is amazing. A world class city like NYC, our metrocard system is a big fat joke.
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