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Old 08-08-2016, 06:44 AM
 
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terrible situation and i also think she was targeted. My main reason for thinking that is how man rapist have you heard of that took the time to put a condom on (especially if homeless)
I find that really strange! Was it confirmed thru dna that it was the condom used in her rape? My guess is that some other couple hid out in there for a "quicky" and disposed of the condom there.
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Old 08-08-2016, 06:47 AM
 
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I think she was targeted and the family (and police) probably know more than they are saying. The fact that the police started a helicopter search within hours indicates to me that they had a basis for concern more than being a little late coming home.
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Old 08-08-2016, 06:55 AM
 
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I find that really strange! Was it confirmed thru dna that it was the condom used in her rape? My guess is that some other couple hid out in there for a "quicky" and disposed of the condom there.
Believe it or not rapists do take that time. Years ago probably not but that was before DNA testing, a process that has grown amazingly accurate. Since many states (now including New York) have removed the statue of limitations on rape those "kits" and test results can come back to haunt a rapist years later. In fact IIRC all persons convicted of felony and some misdemeanor crimes now by law in NYS must surrender DNA which is entered and compared with local and the national/FBI database. Many other states also do the same.


Yes, a guy can hit it and run, but even on a corpse DNA evidence can be gathered (semen, blood, hair, skin) that would link him to the crime.
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Old 08-08-2016, 06:57 AM
 
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I think she was targeted and the family (and police) probably know more than they are saying. The fact that the police started a helicopter search within hours indicates to me that they had a basis for concern more than being a little late coming home.
It can also be because she went missing while jogging in/near a marsh and it would be easier to spot her from above.
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Old 08-08-2016, 07:02 AM
 
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The neighbor was an NYPD assistant chief. That's why they were able to get the large scale police operation underway quickly.
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Old 08-08-2016, 07:55 AM
 
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It can also be because she went missing while jogging in/near a marsh and it would be easier to spot her from above.
I understand that. My point is why would they be that concerned about an adult woman being late for such a short time when she could have met a friend and stopped to chat, or gotten coffee or a hundred other things. She left at 5, presumably jogs for an hour before returning. At 7 she would have been an hour late. You think the police routinely start a massive search for someone being an hour late coming home? I don't. I know the father contacted a police chief but still there have to be more reasons why they responded so fast. The response was the type if someone saw her being abducted (apparently not) or if there had been a previous threat of some kind.
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Old 08-08-2016, 08:26 AM
 
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I understand that. My point is why would they be that concerned about an adult woman being late for such a short time when she could have met a friend and stopped to chat, or gotten coffee or a hundred other things. She left at 5, presumably jogs for an hour before returning. At 7 she would have been an hour late. You think the police routinely start a massive search for someone being an hour late coming home? I don't. I know the father contacted a police chief but still there have to be more reasons why they responded so fast. The response was the type if someone saw her being abducted (apparently not) or if there had been a previous threat of some kind.
exactly i think of two possible scenarios, either the boyfriend who she broke up with 2 days before was involved or her family was involved in some shady business, possibly drugs or some underworld activity and someone targeted her to get at the family.

this does not seem like some random homeless person going after her.
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Old 08-08-2016, 08:40 AM
 
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Her father was a first responder fireman and the neighbor was a NYPD assistant chief. They build relationships in the field and these two were neighbors so they knew each others families and this was their neighborhood. You help your own kind in these situations.

She put up a hell of a fight. She bit her attacker so hard that her teeth cracked. I think if she hadn't of done that she might still be alive. She wounded them physically and it angered the attacker.
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Old 08-08-2016, 09:05 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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I think the killer knew the victim, the force and injuries seem personal. That's just my opinion.

Unless it's a serial killer.
Sad story. It reminds me of the Google Beach murders. I wonder if there could be a relation to this as that killer was never caught.
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Old 08-08-2016, 09:07 AM
 
Location: NYC
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Believe it or not rapists do take that time. Years ago probably not but that was before DNA testing, a process that has grown amazingly accurate. Since many states (now including New York) have removed the statue of limitations on rape those "kits" and test results can come back to haunt a rapist years later. In fact IIRC all persons convicted of felony and some misdemeanor crimes now by law in NYS must surrender DNA which is entered and compared with local and the national/FBI database. Many other states also do the same.


Yes, a guy can hit it and run, but even on a corpse DNA evidence can be gathered (semen, blood, hair, skin) that would link him to the crime.
O.k., but the police found the condom, so they have the DNA anyways, the rapist should have taken the condom with him and not discard it near her body, if hiding the evidence was his intention.
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