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Old 09-06-2016, 06:57 AM
 
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Okay.
That happened a LONG time ago.
It's time for people to take responsibility for their communities NOW.
Like I said did slavery/racism and overnight. It took hundreds of years and racism is still kicking.

You expect a community that has been ravaged and disenfranchised for decades, is going to reverse all the damage that has been done by our government. I'm not even going to point out the obvious lack of wealth, we have a fraction of the wealth white communities have. White people had a head start. You ever heard of black Wall Street?

And there are plenty who take responsibility for their community, we are the only ones to actually be in our communities, actually trying to make things better, being active, living in our communities. Black woman are leading all other groups college enrollment according to statistics. success stories are a dime a dozen but unfortunately it's going to decades to reverse the effects of years of neglect especially all the years of the drug epidemic and mass incarceration.
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Old 09-06-2016, 07:01 AM
 
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Okay.
That happened a LONG time ago.
It's time for people to take responsibility for their communities NOW.
Listen, if you are interested in making an argument that it is innate within black culture to be destructive, nothing I or anyone else says will convince you otherwise. Systemic racism is definitely a "thing". And when someone shines a light on the responsibility that European culture had/has on the devastating environment that many poor black children are struggling to find their way through, you get "shut up, slavery happened xyz years ago", when it still has innumerable effects on society today.
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Old 09-06-2016, 07:14 AM
 
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So you are saying that the schools are worse in these neighborhoods because the students are black?
Or because they're poor?

So you are blaming the students for being poor, making the schools bad?

It sounds like you are saying the schools are bad because students' parents don't have education and aren't concerned with their kids' education.

This doesn't seem that it's the fault of the schools then, but rather of the poor community itself?
Please explain where I stated "schools are worse in these neighborboods because the students are black?". You are the ONLY one that stated race - even though these areas are predominately American Black. No one is blaming the students for being poor but due to that less funding will be received.

No! The education system has it's faults. I rememebr during 1997-2000 children in those areas who weren't meeting standards or kept repeating grades were just pushed through. There were kids in high school that couldn't read which contributed the drop out rate. These parents then had children of their own.

I also know that the quality of teachers/teaching will differ in an area like ENY compared to DUMBO.

The school doesn't start bad. But when there's underfunding, no extracirricular programs, lack of supplies for students, teachers who are stressed, lack of education or concern at home, abusive households, drugs or struggling families all this contribute to it becoming a "bad" school because of the associations.
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Old 09-06-2016, 07:15 AM
 
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Okay.
That happened a LONG time ago.
It's time for people to take responsibility for their communities NOW.
You seem to know everything, so why don't you approach the most violent criminals with a plea down on your knees begging them to end the violence. After all, it's just a matter of giving people lectures, according to you.

No one is responsible for a community. If someone breaks the law and the cops have to arrest them, it's up to the police to do their job and arrest them or otherwise deal with them. You do realize that's why we pay taxes for law enforcement.
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Old 09-06-2016, 07:16 AM
 
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But in a New York City PUBLIC school, why would the resources be any different in a black neighborhood's school than in a white neighborhood's school?
Get a job there and you find out yourself. You claim to know all the solutions (when you know nothing) so why are you even asking this question?
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Old 09-06-2016, 07:19 AM
 
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Listen, if you are interested in making an argument that it is innate within black culture to be destructive, nothing I or anyone else says will convince you otherwise. Systemic racism is definitely a "thing". And when someone shines a light on the responsibility that European culture had/has on the devastating environment that many poor black children are struggling to find their way through, you get "shut up, slavery happened xyz years ago", when it still has innumerable effects on society today.
Don't even bother trying to explain anything to this moronic troll.

If she claims to have all the solutions, LET her go out and implement them. Of course we all know she has no solutions, so she can just ****.

It's also so brave of her to talk all this nonsense hidden behind a fake name on the internet. Things she wouldn't dare say in public. There are plenty of poor Black neighborhoods she could go to in Brooklyn to lecture people on the street. Of course they might do bodily injury to her, so it's safe her to try to lecture strangers on the internet who clearly aren't criminals. What a COWARD.
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Old 09-06-2016, 07:23 AM
 
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I also know that the quality of teachers/teaching will differ in an area like ENY compared to DUMBO.

The school doesn't start bad. But when there's underfunding, no extracirricular programs, lack of supplies for students, teachers who are stressed, lack of education or concern at home, abusive households, drugs or struggling families all this contribute to it becoming a "bad" school because of the associations.
Why would the quality of teachers/teaching differ in ENY vs. DUMBO?

Isn't the funding the same for every NYC school?
Every NYC public school has extracurricular programs and equal supplies?

The lack of education, concern at home, abusive households, drugs, struggling families can NOT be blamed on the school.
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Old 09-06-2016, 07:24 AM
 
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Don't even bother trying to explain anything to this moronic troll.

If she claims to have all the solutions, LET her go out and implement them. Of course we all know she has no solutions, so she can just ****.

It's also so brave of her to talk all this nonsense hidden behind a fake name on the internet. Things she wouldn't dare say in public. There are plenty of poor Black neighborhoods she could go to in Brooklyn to lecture people on the street. Of course they might do bodily injury to her, so it's safe her to try to lecture strangers on the internet who clearly aren't criminals. What a COWARD.
Why would they do BODILY INJURY to me?
Are you saying poor black people are more likely to be violent?
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Old 09-06-2016, 07:25 AM
 
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Get a job there and you find out yourself. You claim to know all the solutions (when you know nothing) so why are you even asking this question?
I do have a job there.
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Old 09-06-2016, 07:28 AM
 
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I do have a job there.
Apparently you are unable to make a difference. It's no one else's responsibility that a social worker feels like a powerless failure.
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