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Old 11-28-2016, 04:10 PM
 
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This you have to read to believe: https://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/201...-subway-delays
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Old 11-28-2016, 08:57 PM
 
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all these people looking for jobs and he wouldnt even get to work on time. Glad he was fired. time to trim the fat.
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Old 11-28-2016, 09:21 PM
 
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the subways are unreliable, but they are more reliable than a guy like this...
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Old 11-28-2016, 10:23 PM
 
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all these people looking for jobs and he wouldnt even get to work on time. Glad he was fired. time to trim the fat.
And on top of that he insulted his boss.

All he had to do is leave home earlier or move closer to work.
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Old 11-28-2016, 11:07 PM
 
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Default ways to get excused

There is a new law on the books, first 40 hours of sick day hours can be used towards lateness, so no more risking your job for tardiness. The city law began in the 2016 year, so it would not benefit this guy.

Also, anyone can get a tardy excuse by going on the MTA website, and inputting the train, time traveled etc...
this is a valid excuse. For some reason, those travelling over an hour to work get more leverage from employers with this excuse, as only 2 trains or buses leave per hour.These class of people, from the Poconos or upstate ny are given a break for living so far from work.

It is unfare, as if trains in nyc back up, or someone gets sick, you are stuck the same. Employers really expect you to arrive at work 30 minutes prior to shift start, to avoid any hiccups along the way, Try telling this to parents dropping off their kids at school in the morning, or to a person that has to work a long night shift. Anything can happen on the subway or bus. Police activity, sick passenger, people holding the door, signal malfunction, over crowding.

That guy was chronically late, yes. But was it 10-15 minutes late on those occassions, or just strolling in after an hour? And for telling someone to get away from me lady to a superior does not sound so bad. This is what you are supposed to do when someone is bothering you at work, confront the aggressor, if that was what the lady was doing to him.
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Old 11-28-2016, 11:13 PM
 
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There is a new law on the books, first 40 hours of sick day hours can be used towards lateness, so no more risking your job for tardiness. The city law began in the 2016 year, so it would not benefit this guy.

Also, anyone can get a tardy excuse by going on the MTA website, and inputting the train, time traveled etc...
this is a valid excuse. For some reason, those travelling over an hour to work get more leverage from employers with this excuse, as only 2 trains or buses leave per hour.These class of people, from the Poconos or upstate ny are given a break for living so far from work.

It is unfare, as if trains in nyc back up, or someone gets sick, you are stuck the same. Employers really expect you to arrive at work 30 minutes prior to shift start, to avoid any hiccups along the way, Try telling this to parents dropping off their kids at school in the morning, or to a person that has to work a long night shift. Anything can happen on the subway or bus. Police activity, sick passenger, people holding the door, signal malfunction, over crowding.

That guy was chronically late, yes. But was it 10-15 minutes late on those occassions, or just strolling in after an hour? And for telling someone to get away from me lady to a superior does not sound so bad. This is what you are supposed to do when someone is bothering you at work, confront the aggressor, if that was what the lady was doing to him.
If he is late 53 times he needed to either move closer to his job or leave earlier. Obviously the other people at his job aren't late 53 times, so clearly this had nothing to do with the MTA. None of his alleged instances of lateness caused by the MTA were verified. He did not go on the MTA website and look up the time to submit excuses, either.
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Old 11-29-2016, 12:50 AM
 
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There is a new law on the books, first 40 hours of sick day hours can be used towards lateness, so no more risking your job for tardiness. The city law began in the 2016 year, so it would not benefit this guy.

Also, anyone can get a tardy excuse by going on the MTA website, and inputting the train, time traveled etc...
this is a valid excuse. For some reason, those travelling over an hour to work get more leverage from employers with this excuse, as only 2 trains or buses leave per hour.These class of people, from the Poconos or upstate ny are given a break for living so far from work.

It is unfare, as if trains in nyc back up, or someone gets sick, you are stuck the same. Employers really expect you to arrive at work 30 minutes prior to shift start, to avoid any hiccups along the way, Try telling this to parents dropping off their kids at school in the morning, or to a person that has to work a long night shift. Anything can happen on the subway or bus. Police activity, sick passenger, people holding the door, signal malfunction, over crowding.

That guy was chronically late, yes. But was it 10-15 minutes late on those occassions, or just strolling in after an hour? And for telling someone to get away from me lady to a superior does not sound so bad. This is what you are supposed to do when someone is bothering you at work, confront the aggressor, if that was what the lady was doing to him.
No it does not!


Find where in the law it says sick day can be used for tardiness:
https://www1.nyc.gov/site/dca/about/...ve-FAQs.page#4


That is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. No employer would stand for such a thing. If I'm giving you a sick day "off" because you are late then why are you still at work? Do I have to pay both the sick day and give you credit for working?


I've heard of persons being so late they were told to simply just not bother and were either docked a day's pay or PTO; but we're talking about it being darn near 11AM and they were due in at 9AM.


Bottom line tardiness is tardiness. What is it with people today coming up with all sorts of excuses or whatever to explain away their lateness? When you are hired the hours are clearly spelled out, if you cannot get yourself into work on time *EVERY DAY* then you need to find another place to work.


No one is bothered by the occasional lateness due to transit or other problems. Stuff happens. But there is a world of difference between those who are always on time (or even early) versus chronic lateness.


Worked with a chick who couldn't get in on time if her life depended upon it; soon enough she was written up for tardiness. She'd clean up her act enough to get off warning, but soon would be back for the same reason. Finally one day she was REALLY late, but this time there was a reason; a major derailment on subway. It didn't matter, girl was terminated for cause (lateness). She was denied unemployment because she was terminated for cause. They pretty much told her "you were officially warned not to come in late, but you did....". She countered with the subway issue, it didn't matter. Her appeals were denied as well.


It isn't rock science people; you know how long it takes to get to work; leave your house early enough so there is enough cushion in case of problems. Same goes pretty much for anything else in life, school, dates, travel.... Nothing is more aggravating than cooling one's jets waiting for someone who is always late. Worse many persons with tardiness issues see no problem with their behavior and that the world should just take them as they are.
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Old 11-29-2016, 05:46 AM
 
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No it does not!


Find where in the law it says sick day can be used for tardiness:
https://www1.nyc.gov/site/dca/about/...ve-FAQs.page#4



It isn't rock science people; you know how long it takes to get to work; leave your house early enough so there is enough cushion in case of problems. Same goes pretty much for anything else in life, school, dates, travel.... Nothing is more aggravating than cooling one's jets waiting for someone who is always late. Worse many persons with tardiness issues see no problem with their behavior and that the world should just take them as they are.
Generally it's a good idea to leave early enough to give yourself some time to get to important things (work school, travel, important appointments) a little bit early so you have time to properly set up and so you won't be rushing.
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