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Sure, private and parochial (religious) schools have operated like that for a long time, but NOT on the public teat.
Public schools operate that way as well. Some public schools one has to test in to get into (Specialized public schools). Other public schools only take in people zoned to that area.
If you talk about universities, public, private, or religious it's up to the university to decide who they want to accept, and they all get government funding so long as they don't discriminate on the basis of protected categories like religion, race, gender, nationality, or disability.
Education in this country is largely managed at the state and local level. Have you noticed who's running NYS/NYC at the moment.
In this jurisdiction, the teachers union has an unfortunately high level of influence, so nothing is likely to change.
The department of education (federal) doles out substantial money nationally to urban districts. The department of education can simply bypass the city if it has to, and give those funds in the form of vouchers directly to parents.
And under former Democrat Michael Bloomberg, the charter schools were given a huge push in NYC, despite having a Democratic governor. The teachers union doesn't have that much power. School accountability, with the closure of failing schools happened when Cuomo was the governor. Actually Cuomo supporters charter schools, and I doubt he is opposed to school vouchers.
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Put a number on this. The NYC DOE budget is something like $29+ billion. How much of that comes from the Federal Government? I tried a quick Google to find out, but ran into bureaucratic informational swamp.
And our new President will likely push school vouchers through via executive order, as it is perfectly legal for him to reallocate the department of education dollars as they see fit.
Federal financial aid is used to send people to religious and/or private universities, for adults ages 18 and over. Government funding goes to religious charities.
So clearly the government funding religious education is CONSTITUTIONAL.
We see Trump wasted no time with executive orders and wait till Betsy deVos is confirmed.
The fact you think the Department of Education has anything to do with local education funding shows you have zero understanding of education policy or education in general.
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Put a number on this. The NYC DOE budget is something like $29+ billion. How much of that comes from the Federal Government? I tried a quick Google to find out, but ran into bureaucratic informational swamp.
It's really not that hard to look up. Of the total education funding for K-12 nationwide, the government provides 8% while federal, state and private sources fund 92%. It's right there on the DOE website. The DOE provides gap financing for local education in the case of crisis. They do not fund local education as matter of course. People posting here have zero idea how education funding or policy work and pretty much are talking about **** they don't understand. The person who said Trump will convert federal dollars to vouchers doesn't understand **** about NY school financing or government in general. They are spewing gibberish.
It's really not that hard to look up. Of the total education funding for K-12 nationwide, the government provides 8% while federal, state and private sources fund 92%. It's right there on the DOE website. The DOE provides gap financing for local education in the case of crisis. They do not fund local education as matter of course. People posting here have zero idea how education funding or policy work and pretty much are talking about **** they don't understand. The person who said Trump will convert federal dollars to vouchers doesn't understand **** about NY school financing or government in general. They are spewing gibberish.
Trump has already done an excellent job of keeping his campaign promises. Those in the public sector are shaking in fear on what Trump will do. Oh he has already instituted a hiring freeze on government jobs.
He has already canceled the TPP. Of course the educated experts claimed he would lose by a landslide and they were wrong. Then they said he wouldn't uphold his campaign promises and he has already upheld many of them.
Of course according to people like you Trump didn't know what he was talking about. And yet he won.
I was looking for the number for what NYC received. But this can be worked with.
Let's say the federal money made up 8 percent of the DOE budget, how many students is that going to fund in private schools? Maybe it would cover 8% of the student population. For a variety of reasons (the cost of privates schools being one) likely less.
And again, the welfare education complex, not just in NYC/NYS, but around the country, would fight this tooth an nail.
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Originally Posted by jharlem1
It's really not that hard to look up. Of the total education funding for K-12 nationwide, the government provides 8% while federal, state and private sources fund 92%. It's right there on the DOE website. The DOE provides gap financing for local education in the case of crisis. They do not fund local education as matter of course. People posting here have zero idea how education funding or policy work and pretty much are talking about **** they don't understand. The person who said Trump will convert federal dollars to vouchers doesn't understand **** about NY school financing or government in general. They are spewing gibberish.
Trump has already done an excellent job of keeping his campaign promises. Those in the public sector are shaking in fear on what Trump will do. Oh he has already instituted a hiring freeze on government jobs.
He has already canceled the TPP. Of course the educated experts claimed he would lose by a landslide and they were wrong. Then they said he wouldn't uphold his campaign promises and he has already upheld many of them.
Of course according to people like you Trump didn't know what he was talking about. And yet he won.
No. I'm saying you don't know what you're talking about. You know nothing about education finance or policy. You've spewed crap on this post on education funding yet have no idea how education finance is structured. I am not talking about anyone but you - who has no idea what you're talking about.
I was looking for the number for what NYC received. But this can be worked with.
Let's say the federal money made up 8 percent of the DOE budget, how many students is that going to fund in private schools? Maybe it would cover 8% of the student population. For a variety of reasons (the cost of privates schools being one) likely less.
And again, the welfare education complex, not just in NYC/NYS, but around the country, would fight this tooth an nail.
8% of funding wouldn't cover 8% of students. It's not a one-to-one correlation. Second, it's not distributed equally. Schools districts that are in crisis are allocated most of those dollars. For example, in 2016-17, NYC receives $1.7bn or 5% of total funding. Keep in mind that a large percentage of this money is NOT fungible and issued under specific restricted initiatives (like drug prevention, specialized teacher training, pre-k, etc...). The lion's share of the school budget (95%) or $27.5bn is State and City funded.
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