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It's gonna cost a lot and different length cars run on the same tracks which means doors open at different spots in the b division ( Letter trains have 60 and 75 foot cars. It will happen eventually but don't expect to see it anytime soon. I have pulled my train into stations that were wall to wall people and always worried someone would get bumped into the track in front of my train. It almost happened at Dekalb. A kid got knocked down just as I got near him and his mother had to grab him by the scruff of the neck and pull him back. If I didn't put the train in emergency I probably would have hit his head. I had a few incidents like that including one where a young girl sitting on a bike was pushed in front of my train. How I went home with clean underwear that day I'll never know. There are a lot of stories to tell.
It couldn't happen until division B retires all 75 foot cars. The 44 order has been retired, and now r46 is going to be replaced with 60 foot cars by the r211 order. Now that leads the r68.
It seems odd to me that NYC, the Rome of this century has such an outdated subway system. I heard about the girl who fainted and fell into the tracks and got half of her body ran over. Even Bangkok has glass dividers. Is there any plans to add these?
Why is it odd when the subway system is so old? Its not odd at all - its what one would expect. You say "even Bangkok", yet the Bangkok subway system is much newer.
It would be a huge retrofit but really not needed. What you going to do next - glass door the LIRR then the MNRR? What about walling off roads expect for at crossing points?
Why is it odd when the subway system is so old? Its not odd at all - its what one would expect. You say "even Bangkok", yet the Bangkok subway system is much newer.
It would be a huge retrofit but really not needed. What you going to do next - glass door the LIRR then the MNRR? What about walling off roads expect for at crossing points?
Doing it for commuter rail stations won't make much financial or operational sense unless it's at a station with high frequency and heavy overcrowding.
Doing it for commuter rail stations won't make much financial or operational sense unless it's at a station with high frequency and heavy overcrowding.
Frequency is not relevant, overcrowding is. Many railroad commuter lines could easily be considered overcrowded during rush hours since the whole platform is full of people waiting for that one train that comes in at that one allotted time - in fact the 7.30am from Larchmont or wherever is guaranteed to be crowded
Nevertheless it doesn't need to be done. Of all the things that the transit system needs, that would be way down the list.
Frequency is not relevant, overcrowding is. Many railroad commuter lines could easily be considered overcrowded during rush hours since the whole platform is full of people waiting for that one train that comes in at that one allotted time - in fact the 7.30am from Larchmont or wherever is guaranteed to be crowded
Nevertheless it doesn't need to be done. Of all the things that the transit system needs, that would be way down the list.
I should've said ridership instead of frequency, but frequency matters in your scenario. If they upped frequency at that station, then the overcrowding would be vastly reduced.
I don't think any commuter rail station has anywhere near the overcrowding on platforms that some of the subway stations do, but I haven't been to every LIRR and Metro-North station. I doubt the immense crowds are there and the frequency at most stations aren't so high that a service disruption from some idiot will back up dozens of trains within a half hour nor will there be so many people passong through that trash fires are a real issue (fewer people, less trash).
Overall, I think it's sensible for the subway. Maybe for some commuter rail stations in a few decades.
Trump promised great things for infrastructure via public-private partnerships. So I'm essence, money isn't coming from the government. It's coming from private investors who charge the end users tolls and fees.
The new subway stations like the hudson yards etc should do this but it cost too much
Nyc would have to win the Olympics or something and receive a ton of cash to overhaul it. Its really old system and costs alot to run as is.
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