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Old 03-31-2017, 12:04 PM
 
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This article was written before the press conference, in which de Blasio annouced that the city will close stop and frisk. Now that New York has decriminalized marijuana, the push to end mass incarceration continues and they don't Riker's. They will have smaller jails in all 5 boroughs, with the biggest jail being placed in Manhattan and the smallest jail in Staten Island!
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Old 03-31-2017, 12:13 PM
 
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It is a *plan* that mayor de Boob has gotten behind, using his mouth to pre-empt an announcement by former NYS chief judge Lippmann who headed a commission on this issue.


It is by no means a "done" deal and already Staten Island's borough president has made it clear that borough wants nothing to do with a local lock-up. One assumes that will be the case elsewhere as well.


The whole stunt by Bill de Boob is of course an obvious election year related ploy to get out in front of an issue and take credit.


New York City to close Rikers Island | New York Post
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Old 03-31-2017, 12:13 PM
 
Location: New York NY
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If the mayor can pull this off it's great. But I have my doubts. I remember the old women's jail in the Village on 6th Ave and how folks who lived around there absolutely detested the place and forced it to eventually shut down. Why would any other neighborhood anywhere in the city feel any different now? I don't think they would. Maybe siting some of these prisons in industrial/warehouse areas away from residential neighborhoods would work, but even then I think neighborhood jails is going to be a heavy lift for DiBlasio, especially since he is already doing scatter site housing for the homeless.
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Old 03-31-2017, 12:18 PM
 
Location: Harlem, NY
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Shut rikers down and send the nairdwellers to hardcore prison upstate. Do not pass go, do not collect $200
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Old 03-31-2017, 12:41 PM
 
Location: DMV Area/NYC/Honolulu
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If we'd actually see cost-savings (long term--short term there will likely be none given the cost to construct new, secure buildings, including cost overruns, etc.), then I'd be for it. But, somehow, I am not buying that its actually going to be cheaper as de Blasio claims. These projects almost always end up being well over budget it seems.
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Old 03-31-2017, 12:49 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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I can see it happening. NYC is running out of real estate. I can see them breaking ground in Central Park in 20 years or so.

I read somewhere that the plan is to shut down rikers and build a brand new prison on Ward Island.
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Old 03-31-2017, 01:00 PM
 
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The state is behind this too. Keep in mind NYC shut down 11 acres worth of mental hospitals on Roosevelt Island and gave that land to Cornell University for its graduate school of applied science and engineering. The new campus opens this fall. So there is historical precedent and the city may even have developers or uses for Riker's Island lined up.

With them arresting less people they need less jail space. As for opposition on Staten Island, all the boroughs house addicts and the homeless, so they all already have certain facilities. Staten Island also doesn't have enough people to determine who the mayor of NYC is.
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Old 03-31-2017, 01:18 PM
 
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Another stroke of genius from Mayor De Blas'shole

Anyone care to take odds on the Manhattan prison not being located anywhere near Gracie mansion, or any place else this sorry excuse, two-legged colostomy bag of a mayor, or his family, has any business?
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Old 03-31-2017, 01:21 PM
 
Location: Bronx
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I hope they can turn rikers Island into affordable housing.
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Old 03-31-2017, 01:39 PM
 
Location: Folsom, CA
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Why not renovate Riker's to address the homeless problem rather than using shelters and commercial hotels in the neighborhoods?
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