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So NYC was even kind of expensive back then, especiallt considering how run down it was.
I'm shocked that inflation is that high, then again it was 28 years ago.
Oh for sure. NYC has always been one of the most expensive cities.
Even back then, it was borderline unaffordable, certainly in Manhattan.
I remember in about 1990, you couldn't find a 1 bedroom apartment in Manhattan (below Harlem), for less than $1000.
For a middle class or lower middle class person at that time, that was a lot to spend per month for an apartment.
For a couple sharing a 1 bedroom, it was more affordable.
For that reason, when I graduated from college, I didn't stay in NYC, on an entry level salary it was tough. Instead I moved to Boston where (at the time) it was much more affordable (I rented a one bedroom for $550 then in the Boston area).
This is an insane statement. So you think immigrant families want to live in a room? No they are renting all they can afford. The fact that the system relegates any families to live in rooms is inhumane, I don't think you would want that for your family. Just because it is the norm doesn't make mean it "works perfectly well" it means that the system is completely broken for working families.
Also, it is not just immigrants and the poorly educated. It is people with Bachelors degrees who cannot afford studio apartments anymore
Immigrant families CHOSE to come to NYC and while they are living multiple families to an apartment or house they are often WIRING money back home. There is definitely choice there as no one forces them to move to NYC.
As for bachelor degrees, please. A person with a bachelor's degree as their choice of where they want to live in this country, provided that they are able to afford it. An immigrant who doesn't speak English and who lives in a community of their countrymen might have to go back to their home country, as their options are severely limited. Also people with bachelor degrees and any kind of career/job options are not people obsessed with living a certain lifestyle in NYC. They'll go to wherever is best for their career.
I get you're an activist, but nothing can make the government shield people from extremely poor decision making ability. Live where it makes sense for you to live! You are not entitled to a cheap apartment in NYC!
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Astoria, Woodside, and Sunnyside WERE mostly white working class neighborhoods.
They have since been gentrified (Astoria more than the other two)
But by the time those neighborhoods started gentrifying, they were majority-minority.
I'm not sure when was the last time those places were full fledged white neighborhoods, must have been a long time ago.
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Originally Posted by Shoshanarose
Oh for sure. NYC has always been one of the most expensive cities.
Even back then, it was borderline unaffordable, certainly in Manhattan.
I remember in about 1990, you couldn't find a 1 bedroom apartment in Manhattan (below Harlem), for less than $1000.
For a middle class or lower middle class person at that time, that was a lot to spend per month for an apartment.
For a couple sharing a 1 bedroom, it was more affordable.
For that reason, when I graduated from college, I didn't stay in NYC, on an entry level salary it was tough. Instead I moved to Boston where (at the time) it was much more affordable (I rented a one bedroom for $550 then in the Boston area).
Yeah, 1000 dollars in 1990 sounds like a lot. Although, I think you might have been able to get a place in the LES for less than that, as it was nowhere near as gentrified as it is today.
I lived in Sunnyside in the early 2000's and I was one of the few Black people living in the area. I remember more of an Middle Eastern and some White and Latino. My Dad who visits friends in the area a lot says it's mostly the same now.
Astoria was Sicilian before it was Greek and Middle Eastern. Then Mexicans and middle America people came too. As said already, Black people in the Astoria PJs and Ravenswood.
Woodside hasn't been a white neighborhood for some time now. Mostly Filipino, Central American, and Pakistani now. Some Irish still floating around, but barely. Some Black people in the Woodside PJs.
Sunnyside is Irish, Mexican, Nepalese, and Arab. And regular white people in the historic district.
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