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Old 05-02-2017, 11:09 PM
 
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You build in non prime areas. You yourself have talked about the massive construction in the Rockaways, which we know is underutilized. You know the city pretty well, there's substantial construction in areas that when you were a kid would not have been considered prime.

When new buildings are sprouting up in East New York and Brownsville, that tells you something. And lately with all of the new construction rents have peaked in NYC and declined.

You're right about the South Bronx being decided already. It will gentrify. Developers have already bought it out. It's going to take 20 or so years before the neighborhood is nice, but developers have already bought it out and the process is already underway. And who knows, I could be wrong, maybe the South Bronx will gentrify faster than I though. A lot of startups are moving there. Maybe there will be a big difference in 5 years.

Jamaica, NY is getting startups and hotels (Some became hotels of the homeless) but still Jamaica is going to gentrify too, and it took will look very different in 5 years. Just 5 years ago LIC had few high rises and few office buildings besides the City Group building. Look at it now!
No, you're right.....but 3D printing is going to break the unions, and the construction industry in half....that's why its not in NYC yet...we're still infants when it comes to modular IMO
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Old 05-03-2017, 12:58 AM
 
Location: In the heights
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Building more is one of several things that should work in tandem to stop displacement. There's the idea that NYC should have more business centers than concentrating in midtown and downtown and improving or better utilizing transit options to make that realistic (Broadway Junction, Jamaica, and the South Bronx should all be major employment centers). There's also the idea of zoning for easily allowing retail and the like to go several floors up, having better cooperation with municipalities outside of NYC proper or perhaps a vacancy or non-primary residency tax to push developers towards building for people who live and work in NYC.

I think transit is key in to some of this. Let the LIRR and NJT rail be interoperable as they almost are currently (and with a station on the east side of Manhattan). Have LIRR tunnel down to downtown and across the river to Atlantic terminal so it can all be through-running and much more efficient. Have Penn Station Access in place so that some Metro-North trains can form a loop in the city and go right back out to another suburb rather than idling and turning back.
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Old 05-03-2017, 02:09 AM
 
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Building more is one of several things that should work in tandem to stop displacement. There's the idea that NYC should have more business centers than concentrating in midtown and downtown and improving or better utilizing transit options to make that realistic (Broadway Junction, Jamaica, and the South Bronx should all be major employment centers). There's also the idea of zoning for easily allowing retail and the like to go several floors up, having better cooperation with municipalities outside of NYC proper or perhaps a vacancy or non-primary residency tax to push developers towards building for people who live and work in NYC.

I think transit is key in to some of this. Let the LIRR and NJT rail be interoperable as they almost are currently (and with a station on the east side of Manhattan). Have LIRR tunnel down to downtown and across the river to Atlantic terminal so it can all be through-running and much more efficient. Have Penn Station Access in place so that some Metro-North trains can form a loop in the city and go right back out to another suburb rather than idling and turning back.
LIC and Dumbo/Downtown Brooklyn are already major employment centers. They are working on developing both South Bronx and Jamaica as a major employment center. As for as academics and medical stuff go, Harlem is already a major academic center (it has Columbia University and it's affiliates, the Manhattan School of Music, Mt. Sinai Medical School and it's associated programs, City College, and Hunter College) For hospitals Harlem and Washington Heights have New York Presbyterian, St. Luke's, Mt. Sinai, Metropolitan Hospital, and Harlem Hospital. With improvements in the area more of these people live near work, and obviously many of the students live near school.

Flushing is also a growing business center. Elmhurst/Rego Park is a major retail center.
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Old 05-03-2017, 02:33 AM
 
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NYC currently don't have a lot of underutilized land available to meet current housing demand.DO you suggest we start tearing down shorter structures and replacing them with taller ones? Our transportation infrastructure hasn't kept pace with population growth, so I can't even think about us expanding anywhere close the numbers of those cities.
Yes. Manhattah south of 96th st shouldn't have a single building under 50 floors. That kind of density would yield something like 3-4 million apartments just in that area alone. Built out to the tune of 100k apartments a year you'd definitely start to address the rent issue in the outer boroughs.
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Old 05-03-2017, 05:50 AM
 
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The city is already overcrowded. How much more can we stuff ?
And why???
Subways are barely running. Have you ever taken an E train to queens in rush hour ?
Plenty of vacant buildings in Long Island city and sunny side yards.
Market will dictate the prices and demands.
If you can afford life in NYC you stay.
If not you leave. Works like that all over the world.

I don't get this entitlement to live in Manhattan or even New York for that matter .
Plenty of space in this country. If you don't believe me , travel a bit . Maybe drive coast to coast for once and See for yourself.
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Old 05-03-2017, 09:01 AM
 
Location: NYC
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Yes. He can. Mexico City has over 20 million people. Tokyo, Sao Paulo, Shanghai, and a number of other cities have more people than NYC. Fortunately Bloomberg and de Blasio have supported rebuilding and rezoned neighborhoods for development. The city and state have more tax revenues for infrastructure development due to more tax revenues due to gentrification. Phase one of the Second Avenue Subway finally opened, and the 7 train recently expanded to Hudson Yards. All because of greater development.
This isn't just about housing, it is about infrastructure. 3rd world countries can't compare because they share housing more than we do. Our roads, subways, commuter trains, bridges, highway, and even sidewalks are all needing major repairs and it can't keep up. Some subway lines are over 90 yrs old and will crumble if not repaired. Who wants to be buried alive down below?

Electricity demand is growing and power lines have not been upgraded throughout the city. The next major power outage could knockout many older buildings due to less power redundancy.

This whole Amtrak and Njtransit problems are going to get worse and it is not going away until Feds pump in money.
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Old 05-03-2017, 09:13 AM
 
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There is not enough land and rezoning is also an issue. Some residential neighborhoods can't build over 6 floors and some areas are solely for industrial. That was the gist of de blasio plan in east New York, and soon the bronx/rockaways. Changing the rezoning.

That plan is still facing a lot of fight from those communities, people don't want large buildings everywhere. I personally don't, quality over quantity
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Old 05-03-2017, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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There is not enough land and rezoning is also an issue. Some residential neighborhoods can't build over 6 floors and some areas are solely for industrial. That was the gist of de blasio plan in east New York, and soon the bronx/rockaways. Changing the rezoning.

That plan is still facing a lot of fight from those communities, people don't want large buildings everywhere. I personally don't, quality over quantity
That's where I stand too.
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Old 05-03-2017, 06:23 PM
 
Location: NYC
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There is not enough land and rezoning is also an issue. Some residential neighborhoods can't build over 6 floors and some areas are solely for industrial. That was the gist of de blasio plan in east New York, and soon the bronx/rockaways. Changing the rezoning.

That plan is still facing a lot of fight from those communities, people don't want large buildings everywhere. I personally don't, quality over quantity
Not to mention so many Subway station entrance/exits not upgraded to higher capacity. So many stations in NYC are bottlenecked by all the new residents. In the past I never experienced so much station stairs congestion it is getting worse now.
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Old 05-03-2017, 06:56 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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For those that disagree, do you find the status quo acceptable? If not, what would you propose instead.
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