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Old 05-12-2017, 06:10 PM
 
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So I found this absolutely fantastic cheap 2BR apartment around the corner from the M train at Flushing Avenue, which is a 20 minute commute to work. 2BR, laundry in-unit, all that good jazz.

Obviously, the neighborhood hasn't gentrified to the point where it's all snooty whites and absent Chinese going to the snooty fancy restaurants that nobody can afford, but has it gentrified to the point where there's minimal crime and gangbangers and cops sitting in front of the door flashing lights at your bedroom window at 3AM (Actual reason that Boston sucked. Every week)?
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Old 05-12-2017, 06:45 PM
 
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So I found this absolutely fantastic cheap 2BR apartment around the corner from the M train at Flushing Avenue, which is a 20 minute commute to work. 2BR, laundry in-unit, all that good jazz.

Obviously, the neighborhood hasn't gentrified to the point where it's all snooty whites and absent Chinese going to the snooty fancy restaurants that nobody can afford, but has it gentrified to the point where there's minimal crime and gangbangers and cops sitting in front of the door flashing lights at your bedroom window at 3AM (Actual reason that Boston sucked. Every week)?
Why bother signing the lease if you have to ask stuff like this?
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Old 05-12-2017, 06:53 PM
 
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Why bother signing the lease if you have to ask stuff like this?
Because any place I don't have to ask those questions is $3000/month for a 1BR and a much longer commute in a trendy neighborhood, and while I technically *can* swing that, I'd much rather swing a 20 minute commute to work in Manhattan and a 2BR with in-unit laundry that I can sublet out.

/And also because I'm really, really terrible at reading the signs of what makes a neighborhood "OK" or not, so my feelings and someone else's might differ.
//Seriously, I'm from the Midwest, and some of our dangerous ghettos look like Detroit, but some of them look a lot like Crown Heights, just less dense.
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Old 05-12-2017, 06:58 PM
 
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Because any place I don't have to ask those questions is $3000/month for a 1BR and a much longer commute in a trendy neighborhood, and while I technically *can* swing that, I'd much rather swing a 20 minute commute to work in Manhattan and a 2BR with in-unit laundry that I can sublet out.

/And also because I'm really, really terrible at reading the signs of what makes a neighborhood "OK" or not, so my feelings and someone else's might differ.
//Seriously, I'm from the Midwest, and some of our dangerous ghettos look like Detroit, but some of them look a lot like Crown Heights, just less dense.
Whats your budget?

Unfortunately, if you work in Manhattan and want a short commute, you're either gonna have to pay a lot of money or live in a high-crime area in NYC. Sometimes both. There's no "cheap" place to rent in the city that has a short commute to Manhattan unless you get a roommate or you hit a lottery apartment. There's plenty of affordable places in the city that you dont have to worry about crime, but the commute might be longer than what would be ideal to you. Either make more money, or learn to compromise. Best of luck.
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Old 05-12-2017, 07:09 PM
 
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Whats your budget?

Unfortunately, if you work in Manhattan and want a short commute, you're either gonna have to pay a lot of money or live in a high-crime area in NYC. Sometimes both. There's no "cheap" place to rent in the city that has a short commute to Manhattan unless you get a roommate or you hit a lottery apartment. There's plenty of affordable places in the city that you dont have to worry about crime, but the commute might be longer than what would be ideal to you. Either make more money, or learn to compromise. Best of luck.
Topping out at $2600. Because that's one entire paycheck. This is $2500, then I split it and I'm down to $1250.

The other thing is that I can't read these crime maps at all. I just see dots everywhere.

Apparently, the area is very slightly worse than the Upper East Side, and across the street from one that's twice as bad as the UES. Is that good, is that bad? It's better than Greenpoint, which rents at $3000/month, so... *shrugs*.

/Heck, the precinct it's in is better than Park Slope, so....
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Old 05-12-2017, 08:00 PM
 
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Topping out at $2600. Because that's one entire paycheck. This is $2500, then I split it and I'm down to $1250.

The other thing is that I can't read these crime maps at all. I just see dots everywhere.

Apparently, the area is very slightly worse than the Upper East Side, and across the street from one that's twice as bad as the UES. Is that good, is that bad? It's better than Greenpoint, which rents at $3000/month, so... *shrugs*.

/Heck, the precinct it's in is better than Park Slope, so....
If you are accustomed to hood living, you have nothing to worry about. If you're not, then you will see things on the street occasionally that you are not used to, and you will just have to get used to it. As far as you being a victim of a crime, anything can happen anywhere. All you can do is take precaution wherever you go, meaning use your peripheral vision more often and just be more aware of what's happening around you, the true definition of "street smarts"
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Old 05-13-2017, 03:15 AM
 
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Whats your budget?

Unfortunately, if you work in Manhattan and want a short commute, you're either gonna have to pay a lot of money or live in a high-crime area in NYC. Sometimes both. There's no "cheap" place to rent in the city that has a short commute to Manhattan unless you get a roommate or you hit a lottery apartment. There's plenty of affordable places in the city that you dont have to worry about crime, but the commute might be longer than what would be ideal to you. Either make more money, or learn to compromise. Best of luck.
I would guess that Western Queens in general (which is safe) is as at least as cheap as Bed Stuy
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Old 05-13-2017, 03:17 AM
 
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Topping out at $2600. Because that's one entire paycheck. This is $2500, then I split it and I'm down to $1250.

The other thing is that I can't read these crime maps at all. I just see dots everywhere.

Apparently, the area is very slightly worse than the Upper East Side, and across the street from one that's twice as bad as the UES. Is that good, is that bad? It's better than Greenpoint, which rents at $3000/month, so... *shrugs*.

/Heck, the precinct it's in is better than Park Slope, so....
The crime maps seem very misleading to me, I know for a fact that there are neighborhoods with the same shading that have much different crime rates.
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Old 05-13-2017, 04:56 AM
 
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/And also because I'm really, really terrible at reading the signs of what makes a neighborhood "OK" or not, so my feelings and someone else's might differ.
//Seriously, I'm from the Midwest, and some of our dangerous ghettos look like Detroit, but some of them look a lot like Crown Heights, just less dense.
See all those big towers with gated grass fields between them...don't move across the street from them. By the Flushing stop you have a lot of them. That stop borders Bed-Stuy, Williamsburg, and Bushwick. In that particular area, if I had to choose, I'd go with the Bushwick side. Meaning east on Flushing, preferably on the south side.

If you happen to be Hasidic you can get away with living to the west.
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Old 05-13-2017, 05:36 AM
 
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There are a bunch of projects on the Bed Stuy side but also Woodhull hospital. I'd say, the further the place is away from the projects the more "comfortable".
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