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Old 05-26-2017, 08:55 PM
 
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I guess people who keep voting for Democrats in NYC must love being a slave to the Democrat Plantation. The sad part is they don’t even know it.
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Old 05-27-2017, 03:53 AM
 
Location: Bergen County, NJ
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The left is 100% consumed with race. It's all they care about, especially the young ones. Young leftists will expect a mayoral contest based solely on race, and they will get that from the left (Big Bird). Hopefully Nicole can strike sense and reason into enough people to overcome that garbage platform.
I actually see it the other way an element of extreme right wing racism has infiltrated the right. There are people agitating fires in the hope of a race war. Plus many NY Republicans were/are racist to begin with. Not all but yeah many.

I think both parties engage actively in identity politics but the younger generations beyond party affiliations are usually more sophisticated on the issue of race.
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Old 05-27-2017, 05:02 AM
 
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I think a Republican could totally beat De Blasio. He's vulnerable. I haven't met too many people that actively support De Blasio. Even the left is meh on him. I think anyone coherent and with a decent enough platform could beat De Blasio. Now does that person exist for NY Republicans? I don't know. This is the same party behind that disheveled supermarket guy and that cuckoo Paladino. They seem to struggle finding decent candidates.
I don't think that person exists for NY Republicans. I think honestly for both the Democratsand the Republicans it appears no one is seriously interested in running for mayor this time, and I think de Blasio will be reelected by default.
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Old 05-27-2017, 05:06 AM
 
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I'm a minority.

Capitalism was great as long as only white people could take part. Now that we are becoming more "equal" we want socialism that is managed and operated by the white man. You a sucker getting played. They still own you. You getting pimped out for your vote.
What's a minority? I have no idea what that is.

Clearly define yourself. You've claimed to be white and descended from European immigrants when it suited you, and you've claimed to be this or that when it suited you, all apart of your troll game.

Really I wouldn't care, but you do realize being a "minority" doesn't mean you can magically speak for, or know the experiences of all minorities? Example I'm Black but that doesn't mean I can speak out on the experiences of Pakistani or Vietnamese immigrants. I also can't speak out for the experiences of someone who grew up in NYCHA (of any race).
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Old 05-27-2017, 05:45 AM
 
Location: New York, NY
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What's a minority? I have no idea what that is.

Clearly define yourself. You've claimed to be white and descended from European immigrants when it suited you, and you've claimed to be this or that when it suited you, all apart of your troll game.

Really I wouldn't care, but you do realize being a "minority" doesn't mean you can magically speak for, or know the experiences of all minorities? Example I'm Black but that doesn't mean I can speak out on the experiences of Pakistani or Vietnamese immigrants. I also can't speak out for the experiences of someone who grew up in NYCHA (of any race).
I get G-dale and DoomDan mixed up because I think they both live in Glendale? One I think is half Puerto Rican. In those cases I guess they feel they can choose if they can pass for white. I know plenty of Puerto Ricans that are half Italian and they usually consider themselves to be minority. The Puerto Rican mixture comes through in most cases and those trigueño features (black, Spanish and taíno) are very apparent.

In my mind, Italians, Puerto Ricans and the like are not white. Swarthy features in a lot of them means they are clearly mixed. I know there are plenty of fair skinned Italians with blue eyes and some Puerto Ricans with light skin and light eyes but still.
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Old 05-27-2017, 06:28 AM
 
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I read speculation a few months ago that Ivanka Trump might run for mayor.
I'd vote for her. Caribny is right in that both locally and nationally there isn't an appetite for Guliani style rhetoric/attitudes anymore. I will say that people forget that it wasn't until his second term that some of the ugly came out. He was pretty affable in the first 5-6 years of his reign.

The difference between Bloomberg and DeBlasio is that while both are/were liberal the former 1) understood the importance of business to NYC's well being 2) was not openly divisive over the issue of successful people moving into NYC. I can see a fiscally conservative, pro-business, pro-development "light blue" democrat/republican getting the mayoralty in 2021.
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Old 05-27-2017, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Manhattan
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The left is 100% consumed with race. It's all they care about, especially the young ones. Young leftists will expect a mayoral contest based solely on race, and they will get that from the left (Big Bird). Hopefully Nicole can strike sense and reason into enough people to overcome that garbage platform.

The REAL left is concerned with class warfare and economic welfare.
The left as imagined by Fox News is the one consumed with race. It is a fantasy set up as a straw dog by racist crypto fascists, so they have something to punch at.
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Old 05-27-2017, 09:47 AM
 
Location: Earth
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I can see a fiscally conservative, pro-business, pro-development "light blue" democrat/republican getting the mayoralty in 2021.
this is what the city needs.
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Old 05-27-2017, 09:51 AM
 
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I get G-dale and DoomDan mixed up because I think they both live in Glendale? One I think is half Puerto Rican. In those cases I guess they feel they can choose if they can pass for white. I know plenty of Puerto Ricans that are half Italian and they usually consider themselves to be minority. The Puerto Rican mixture comes through in most cases and those trigueño features (black, Spanish and taíno) are very apparent.

In my mind, Italians, Puerto Ricans and the like are not white. Swarthy features in a lot of them means they are clearly mixed. I know there are plenty of fair skinned Italians with blue eyes and some Puerto Ricans with light skin and light eyes but still.

Even white supremacists consider Italians white
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Old 05-27-2017, 09:54 AM
 
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I'd vote for her. Caribny is right in that both locally and nationally there isn't an appetite for Guliani style rhetoric/attitudes anymore. I will say that people forget that it wasn't until his second term that some of the ugly came out. He was pretty affable in the first 5-6 years of his reign.

The difference between Bloomberg and DeBlasio is that while both are/were liberal the former 1) understood the importance of business to NYC's well being 2) was not openly divisive over the issue of successful people moving into NYC. I can see a fiscally conservative, pro-business, pro-development "light blue" democrat/republican getting the mayoralty in 2021.
I'm sure de Blasio realizes the importance of business. Interestingly, some people think he's a sellout to developers.


I think someone more fiscally conservative could win, but if they display a molecule of Trumpism on social issues, they have no chance.
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