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I do believe that the city should have a program for real low income folk to subsidize their NYC Transit expenses! I have no problem with non-profit organizations giving out free Metro Cards to folk who really need them!
I do believe folk should be paying the fare! BUT....
I feel for the elderly woman I saw on Fordham Road with a walker, getting a ticket for a no-fare entry on the Bx12 Select! Why five, count it, five, transit cops were necessary for ticketing an old lady with a walker, beats me! Folk like that, even with the reduced elderly fare, may still have a hard time affording the elderly half price!
However, if you are a young, 20-30 something, able-body who has the ability to get a job, should I have much sympathy for you if you evade the fare?
I do believe that the city should have a program for real low income folk to subsidize their NYC Transit expenses! I have no problem with non-profit organizations giving out free Metro Cards to folk who really need them!
I do believe folk should be paying the fare! BUT....
I feel for the elderly woman I saw on Fordham Road with a walker, getting a ticket for a no-fare entry on the Bx12 Select! Why five, count it, five, transit cops were necessary for ticketing an old lady with a walker, beats me! Folk like that, even with the reduced elderly fare, may still have a hard time affording the elderly half price!
However, if you are a young, 20-30 something, able-body who has the ability to get a job, should I have much sympathy for you if you evade the fare?
There are too many gubment programs as it is giving handouts. This would be another one that I wouldn't support.
For the poor elderly and disabled I'd support and maybe up the height limit for kids to the avg height of a 13 year old. Also lower the fines for minors that get caught jumping the turnstile. Everyone else can get on their knees and go beg on the corner if they have to. But why is this even an issue? The first monthly metro card blue was like what $63 bucks without free transfers now like 2 decades later people want to pay less than that??? Are all deblasio voters homeless now or what?
Last edited by bumblebyz; 06-08-2017 at 08:19 PM..
I'm sorry, I can't. I'm not a cruel person. But $2.75 to get anywhere in the city at any hour is a bargain. There is no excuse for fare evasion and I fully support enforcement of it. I heard on WNYC today that a disproportionate amount of black people are being arrested for this and they want NYPD to provide quarterly numbers for this. So what, NYPD is doing something wrong? Black people should be allowed to ride for free while white people pay?
Seriously, screw that. Everyone should pay. It's really not that much money and the bleeding heart people who say there should be a discount for poor people don't realize that they would pay more to make up the difference, and they are probably not willing to do that. Keep it the same and keep arresting fare dodgers.
Let's see; how many "free" things BdeB and city council have doled out to the "poor" over the past four years.
Item: Free feminine hygiene supplies
Item: Free legal representation in housing court
Item: Free legal representation in immigration court
Item: Free pre-kindergarten
Those are just off the top of one's head.
The poor/low income in NYC already are well taken care of in NYC; far better than nearly any other urban area or in many cases state in this country. At some point enough has to be enough.
NYC has always had low income persons, and somehow they managed to get themselves to work, children to school and otherwise where they needed to go. At what point does the remote idea of self-sufficiency take hold?
Didn't the city, mayor and even Albany just push through a series of minimum wage and overtime increases to "help" the working poor? Well there you are then; just what is that money supposed to be for anyway?
I'm sorry, I can't. I'm not a cruel person. But $2.75 to get anywhere in the city at any hour is a bargain. There is no excuse for fare evasion and I fully support enforcement of it. I heard on WNYC today that a disproportionate amount of black people are being arrested for this and they want NYPD to provide quarterly numbers for this. So what, NYPD is doing something wrong? Black people should be allowed to ride for free while white people pay?
Seriously, screw that. Everyone should pay. It's really not that much money and the bleeding heart people who say there should be a discount for poor people don't realize that they would pay more to make up the difference, and they are probably not willing to do that. Keep it the same and keep arresting fare dodgers.
The disproportionate arrests are a problem! I would like to know the average age range of the persons arrested. An in a city where there may be serious income disparity, should this not be addressed?
I'm down the middle on this! Yes, pay the fare, (I've seen a whole lot of 'able-bodied' hop on the back of the Bx36!), but certain people, like the elderly or disabled, should get more of a break than already in existence. ($2.75 isn't a bargain for everyone!) Even the reduced rate could be a problem for an elderly on a fixed income! And is five cops ticketing an old lady with a walker a good look?
The disproportionate arrests are a problem! I would like to know the average age range of the persons arrested. An in a city where there may be serious income disparity, should this not be addressed?
I'm down the middle on this! Yes, pay the fare, (I've seen a whole lot of 'able-bodied' hop on the back of the Bx36!), but certain people, like the elderly or disabled, should get more of a break than already in existence. ($2.75 isn't a bargain for everyone!) Even the reduced rate could be a problem for an elderly on a fixed income! And is five cops ticketing an old lady with a walker a good look?
Senior citizens and the disabled can apply for a discount card that brings fares down to $1.35 or less.
If the homeless and or those others you see digging through rubbish for recyclables and scrounge up money for subway or bus fare, then those who are working shouldn't complain.
Here is another novel idea; walk and or ride a bike.
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