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Old 08-07-2017, 02:31 PM
 
Location: Between the Bays
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I'm a breeder with no subsidies. I also don't live in Park F'n Slope. I do live in Ridgewood, but when I moved there, it wasn't gentrifying. I'm leaving the area; the place that my daughter has lived her entire life, and built real community and roots. So you're words are a little harder to take. What are you giving up by moving to a more affordable area? It's not like YOU are a child? It's not like you have to leave everything you have ever known. What's stopping you from moving to a different area, one more affordable? And FWIW, this is also my home town which is why I remained in NYC.
I don't know what you are rambling about. But if you can't afford the rent, what other choice do you really have.
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Old 08-08-2017, 08:50 AM
 
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I don't know what you are rambling about. But if you can't afford the rent, what other choice do you really have.
Read the thread where OP was complaining about breeders and all the free stuff that they get (not necessarily true) and being a little bit over the top about housing/food insecurity while a) being a single person b) living in one of the most expensive areas in the city.

I look forward to the day when all my finances are about me, me, me. Hopefully I won't be as entitled about it.
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Old 08-08-2017, 08:59 AM
 
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Reasons for rental shortage:

1) Draconian rent control that began during World War II resulted in the destruction and abandonment of the South Bronx, Harlem, Brownsville, and other neighborhoods. Costs soared in the late 1960's and 1970's. Buildings owners were losing money, saw no way to ever make a profit, so they walked away or torched their buildings. Today, where a six-story building with 36 units once stood, are three 2-family houses (especially in the South Bronx). Hundreds of thousands of rentals lost.

2) In better neighborhoods, building owners gave up, and sold their buildings to coop converters. Most of those coop buildings you see today would have been rentals had their been no rent control. Hundreds of thousands of rentals lost.

3) Building constructed after 1947 were market rate, and construction soared. But in the late 60's just the serious talk of new rent controls put a virtual stop to all new rental buildings. The number of units constructed between 1970 and 1990 is pathetic. Hundreds of thousands of rentals lost.

Those are the main reasons why we have a shortage of rental housing. I believe the number of units torched, abandoned, converted or never built was well over one million. And you can thank our stupid progressive/liberal NYC philosophy for the shortage.
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Old 08-08-2017, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Between the Bays
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Read the thread where OP was complaining about breeders and all the free stuff that they get (not necessarily true) and being a little bit over the top about housing/food insecurity while a) being a single person b) living in one of the most expensive areas in the city.

I look forward to the day when all my finances are about me, me, me. Hopefully I won't be as entitled about it.
Not sure why you were coming after me then. I work endlessly for my kids. They are just miserable and bitter, and need a scapegoat.
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Old 08-08-2017, 12:53 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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It's not even just the affordable housing lotteries. It's a gazillion other things this income band as a single person makes you toxic as well. It's like make JUST enough to pay ridiculous amount of federal, state, and city taxes (and now the lovely new Family Leave act tax that comes out of our paychecks! see your stubs as of last month... HR is supposed to inform people about this, but some people have sucky HR and they didn't know about it... which is against the law.. You need to have been notified weeks ago according to OSCHA laws). I hate how I now live feeling resentful towards people who have children. Having become resentful against the poor. That's not right. I have no right to be resentful of the same group of people I literally came from! Who did this? Our rich overlords. guh-ROSS! It's sad cuz it's only going to get worse.
I looked at my stub but couldn't find anything out of the hundreds of deductions they've made. Anyway, are you sure this is a mandatory tax?
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Old 08-08-2017, 01:01 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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I looked at my stub but couldn't find anything out of the hundreds of deductions they've made. Anyway, are you sure this is a mandatory tax?
Yes. Businesses must take it out. What was optional was when businesses started making such deductions from your check. Some started back in July (optional). If the company you work for started later, then won't see any deductions on your pay stub until then.
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Old 08-08-2017, 01:36 PM
 
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Crisis indeed. I hope to luck out and move into a lottery apartment. Long term, I hope to get into a position to pay off my student debt and leave this city. I often find myself looking at beautiful inexpensive homes in the South and devising plans to build a viable career down there. Until then, New York is the best place for me and I have to deal with it.
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Old 08-08-2017, 02:20 PM
 
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Not sure why you were coming after me then. I work endlessly for my kids. They are just miserable and bitter, and need a scapegoat.
Bad quoting on my part.
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Old 08-11-2017, 01:02 PM
 
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Yup! Being in that nebulous income band between 41K and 69K gets you tossed to the curb. Unless you have a child with no baby daddy in the picture then you're golden. Sad we aren't all born with casino uterii.
Aquarius37, you can't imagine how badly I feel about your situation, and I would most certainly rent you my Parkchester studio ($960 plus utilities), but I have a long-term ongoing tenant. Please contact the realtor Noel Cohen (you can find him online) who deals with Parkchester a lot, and I am sure he can find you something acceptable. I hope I am not violating the Forum rules by recommending this guy. You'll have to pay him the realtor fee (one month rent), but I am confident he'd be able to set you up for the next 10 years, as he did with my tenant and me. There are people who own property in Parkchester who are really hurting to get a good tenant considering the flood of riffraff that tends to come calling when a cheap Parkchester rental is advertised.

PS Oh, actually you have a dog? Unfortunately, Parkchester condo assoc does not allow pets, but Cohen might be able to find you something else in the area.

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Old 08-12-2017, 07:37 PM
 
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When a basement is $1200 it's no good. Even walk ups go for $1200 and up.

I have no problem with the prices, but when you compare it to the new housing units in Texas being rented out at lower price that's when you begin to wonder if your money is worth spending on an old used up small apartment that is most likely infested with some sort of pest.

The airdnb/uber crowd made NYC even worse.
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