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Old 09-11-2017, 10:21 AM
 
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The privileged kids would benefit more from than the poor kids.
NYC is considered the most segregated school system in the country; that largely has to do with real estate values.
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Old 09-11-2017, 11:15 AM
 
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NYC is considered the most segregated school system in the country; that largely has to do with real estate values.
That's true of the NYC Suburbs.

In NYC the segregation is caused by the 20% of NYC students who go to private school.
It completely shifts the demographics.

In many affluent NYC suburbs, less than 5% of the students go to private school.
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Old 09-11-2017, 11:15 AM
 
Location: New York NY
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I'm not sure I clearly understand the purpose of this thread. How to fix the school system followed by a bunch of random budgets?

Are you complaining about the lack of funds that go into the public school system? How about start with properly listing what you deemed wrong with the NYC public school system first.
Do you feel the schools oevr crowded?
Are test scores low compared to other city public schools? Charter, private, or religious schooling?
Do you feel that the school segregated?
Are public school students safe in NYC compared to other city public schools?

Then discuss how to fix them according to your preference. In the meantime are you a product of the public school system? IF so compare how it was "back in the day" to now. Do you have children in public school or any other educational setting?

Seriously this is like the 5th dumbest thread started by the OP with no relevance or thought process..
Yep. Exactly. Original post is so vague with so little thought put into it that you really can't answer how to 'fix' the schools -- especially knowing that there are many issues with the DOE, many different types of schools and neighborhoods, many types of students. There are also some issues that the school system can address with some reasonable hope of success, and some that really are societal and outside their purview entirely. Making good educational policy means knowing which ones are which.
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Old 09-11-2017, 02:09 PM
 
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That's true of the NYC Suburbs.

In NYC the segregation is caused by the 20% of NYC students who go to private school.
It completely shifts the demographics.

In many affluent NYC suburbs, less than 5% of the students go to private school.
While many schools are private, the largest percentage of private schools in NYC are Hebrew schools. I never put religious schools in the same category as private schools like Dwight and Horace Mann. I don't consider them Private schools in the true sense, and private tuition doesn't necessarily mean the schools provide a better education. It's largely based on the surrounding demographics.

If you chose to send your child to public school, particularly in the Pre-K to 5 years cohort, you have few choices other than your zoned school

a. Go to the neigbhorhood school
b. Go to private school
c. go to some other school

If you chose to go with public school your address is the biggest decider of which school your child will attend. Wealthy districts in NYC have better schools for numerous reasons.

So the biggest dependency upon a good public school is living in a rich neigbhorhood.
District 26 in Queens is the best school district in Queens. It comprises of Fresh Meadows, Oakland Gardens.
District 25 is in Flushing, also a great school district.
District 1 is in the Lower East Side (now wealthy) and District 2 is on the lower West side and midtown east and west. Both good districts.

And it goes one and on. Zoom in on this map. The best schools have to do with the most expensive housing.
https://www.zillow.com/ny/schools/#/...em&type=public
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Old 09-11-2017, 02:12 PM
 
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Yep. Exactly. Original post is so vague with so little thought put into it that you really can't answer how to 'fix' the schools -- especially knowing that there are many issues with the DOE, many different types of schools and neighborhoods, many types of students. There are also some issues that the school system can address with some reasonable hope of success, and some that really are societal and outside their purview entirely. Making good educational policy means knowing which ones are which.
And it ignores the facts that NYC has some of the best public schools in the country, especially in the wealthy districts.
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Old 09-11-2017, 02:14 PM
 
Location: Manhattan
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More Money

NYPD Budget= at 50,000 employees at $110,000 per Cop = $5,500,000,000

New York School System= 1,1000,000 students at $22,000 per student= $25,000,000,000

Scarsdale, NY School System= 4600 students at $31,000 per student= $142,000,000

Apples and Oranges.
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Old 09-16-2017, 09:02 PM
 
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More Money

NYPD Budget= at 50,000 employees at $110,000 per Cop = $5,500,000,000

New York School System= 1,1000,000 students at $22,000 per student= $25,000,000,000

Scarsdale, NY School System= 4600 students at $31,000 per student= $142,000,000

nypd is subsidized by the prison system ...it actually makes districts money elsewhere don't consider it a closed system.

parent involvement, studies show families where high levels of parent engagement exist students do remarkably better in school. If we paid parents some of that 25,---------- you bet students would show more growth.
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