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Old 11-13-2017, 07:03 PM
 
Location: New Jersey and hating it
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Neither does just letting them waste away on the streets




Why should we aid flyover states in skirting their moral and civic duty to their own? Also, if NY thinks it can go back to being a welfare capital it better think again. That sank the city financially in the 1970s and back then the feds actually funded things.It'd be way worse now.
You actually think the city’s leaders and residents even know the city’s history that goes that far back? The folks running the city are only reactionary (something bad happens in the news so they propose a new law to prevent it). That’s all they know to do. They haven’t a clue what happened in the past and any lessons that can be learned from it.
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Old 11-13-2017, 08:53 PM
 
Location: Elsewhere
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Make a deal with the governor to house them on the outskirts of NYC
There are no "outskirts" of New York for fifty miles.

And you guys already tried this, remember? Years ago my cousin and her husband bought a condo in Middletown, NY, and right after that NYC sent a chunk of its homeless up that way to be housed on some abandoned facility of some sort. There were people walking on the streets pissing and ****ting at random, and they didn't want to raise their kids in that atmosphere but now they couldn't sell their condo. They moved but had to rent out the condo for the next 15-20 years. Think they finally sold it.
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Old 11-13-2017, 09:15 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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Mighty, that is a bummer (no pun)
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Old 11-14-2017, 06:07 AM
 
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What was it that Bloomberg did that seemed to drastically reduce the amount of homeless people on the streets?
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Old 11-14-2017, 08:32 AM
 
Location: New York City
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What was it that Bloomberg did that seemed to drastically reduce the amount of homeless people on the streets?
cut their services so they had no choice but hop on the greyhound back to Toledo
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Old 11-14-2017, 10:25 AM
 
Location: Manhattan
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I guess Thomas Jefferson forgot to consult you on the meaning of "promote the general Welfare" when he wrote the preamble to the Constitution.
See, he must have thought that the general Welfare included a roof over citizen's heads as it does today.
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Old 11-14-2017, 11:28 AM
 
Location: New York City
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I guess Thomas Jefferson forgot to consult you on the meaning of "promote the general Welfare" when he wrote the preamble to the Constitution.
See, he must have thought that the general Welfare included a roof over citizen's heads as it does today.
Your slanted socialist interpretation of the preamble is obviously in contradiction to the free society and free markets the framers founded and intended. General welfare is achieved by working hard, establishing a good reputation, and contributing to society. In no way does it include handouts of free housing, that goes against everything the framers believed in
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Old 11-14-2017, 11:43 AM
 
Location: NYC
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Being homeless is now better than being a renter with low salary struggling to find affordable rent in NYC.
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Old 11-14-2017, 12:03 PM
 
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the more (better) services that are provided + decriminalization of homeless behaviors will definitely increase the homeless population. everyone follows opportunities, just like everyone flocks to NYC because there's more money here. people travel here just to be homeless. my heart bleeds for those who are without housing of course, but NYC shouldn't carry the burden of providing services for the homeless people from all over the country :-\

i remember it was basically illegal to be homeless when Giuliani was around and i guess Bloomberg kept up the same policies. Notice how the homeless problem started getting worse as soon as a Democrat got back in office, its almost as if they knew that they'd be taken care of eventually
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Old 11-14-2017, 12:04 PM
 
Location: new yawk zoo
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Being homeless is now better than being a renter with low salary struggling to find affordable rent in NYC.
craziest statement this year on CD Data
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