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Old 11-25-2017, 06:25 AM
 
Location: New York, NY
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I still hear/use Van Wick, though Van Wike is actually correct if I'm not mistaken.

I've always thought of Spuyten Duyvil as "Spite-in Deevle" so I was pretty close
Yes the locals do say *Spite-in* in the first part when said fast, but if on Metro-North when approaching the Spuyten Duyvil Metro-North station, will hear the automated announcement which is said carefully (Spy-ten Die-vul), but no one locally says it that way. They all say *Spite-in Die-vul*. Seems as if more recently one can hear *South Riverdale* used to get around saying Spuyten Duyvil, as Spuyten Duyvil is a subsection of Riverdale (the southernmost part), but it is treated as a neighborhood in and of itself. Years ago Is-ham was what one would think of when Isham street appeared, but heard a man who grew up in Inwood say it and he says *I-sh-hem* street, with an emphasis on the *I* at the beginning.
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Old 11-25-2017, 06:37 AM
 
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Yes the locals do say *Spite-in* in the first part when said fast, but if on Metro-North when approaching the Spuyten Duyvil Metro-North station, will hear the automated announcement which is said carefully (Spy-ten Die-vul), but no one locally says it that way. They all say *Spite-in Die-vul*. Seems as if more recently one can hear *South Riverdale* used to get around saying Spuyten Duyvil, as Spuyten Duyvil is a subsection of Riverdale (the southernmost part), but it is treated as a neighborhood in and of itself. Years ago Is-ham was what one would think of when Isham street appeared, but heard a man who grew up in Inwood say it and he says *I-sh-hem* street, with an emphasis on the *I* at the beginning.
That's weird, I would have guessed that such a street is pronounced "Ish-um"

And Dyckman I pronounce Dikeman, but I think everyone does
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Old 11-25-2017, 06:40 AM
 
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And for any future tourists reading this thread, Houston Street is pronounced "House-tin"
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Old 11-25-2017, 06:44 AM
 
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That's weird, I would have guessed that such a street is pronounced "Ish-um"

And Dyckman I pronounce Dikeman, but I think everyone does
The ending with the *um/em* is the same. Beginning is the interesting part.
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Old 11-25-2017, 08:22 AM
 
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I've been curious about the proper pronunciations of several street names in NYC

DeKalb (I say dee-kalb)
For DeKalb, the train says, "Deh-kalb." It has more of a soft "de" sound according to the computer.
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Old 11-25-2017, 09:32 AM
 
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It drives me crazy when I hear people pronouncing Roosevelt Ave as "RUSE-eh-velt" instead of the correct ROSE-eh-velt. It's like these people have slept through their entire US history classes in high school. I'll give a pass to the new Americans or immigrants among us, but people who grew up here really ought to know.

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There has been much debate about the correct pronunciation of Roosevelt's last name, however, in several letters Theodore Roosevelt himself specifies the correct pronunciation. In a letter to the Rev. William W. Moir dated October 10, 1898 he writes:

As for my name, it is pronounced as if it was spelled "Rosavelt." That is in three syllables. The first syllable as if it was "Rose."

Source: Theodore Roosevelt Cyclopedia, pages 534-535. Available online at Home - Theodore Roosevelt Association
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Old 11-25-2017, 10:22 AM
 
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For DeKalb, the train says, "Deh-kalb." It has more of a soft "de" sound according to the computer.
Brooklynites always say *dee-Kalb*.

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It drives me crazy when I hear people pronouncing Roosevelt Ave as "RUSE-eh-velt" instead of the correct ROSE-eh-velt. It's like these people have slept through their entire US history classes in high school. I'll give a pass to the new Americans or immigrants among us, but people who grew up here really ought to know.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WR9GYT8Du8I

There has been much debate about the correct pronunciation of Roosevelt's last name, however, in several letters Theodore Roosevelt himself specifies the correct pronunciation. In a letter to the Rev. William W. Moir dated October 10, 1898 he writes:

As for my name, it is pronounced as if it was spelled "Rosavelt." That is in three syllables. The first syllable as if it was "Rose."

Source: Theodore Roosevelt Cyclopedia, pages 534-535. Available online at Home - Theodore Roosevelt Association
This is more of a New Yorker thing. Old time natives will say Ruse-eh-velt mainly if they have a strong accent.
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Old 11-25-2017, 10:41 AM
 
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Possibly an uneducated native New Yorker thing. Just like I was saying, those who slept through U.S. history class. If it were an issue of Ny accent, then do they say, I'm going to get my wife some rooh-ses for valentines day, or in going to Joo's house (instead of Joe)? Guess not. So the theory about the accent is wrong.
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Old 11-25-2017, 10:52 AM
 
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Possibly an uneducated native New Yorker thing. Just like I was saying, those who slept through U.S. history class. If it were an issue of Ny accent, then do they say, I'm going to get my wife some rooh-ses for valentines day, or in going to Joo's house (instead of Joe)? Guess not. So the theory about the accent is wrong.
You are not a native so you wouldn't know, and it's insulting for you to make assumptions about one's education solely based on how they say a word. Am sure you have an accent too from whatever small town you came from. We can make a lot of assumptions about you too. The whole Ruse-eh-velt thing is a native thing, and you wouldn't understand it and never will. If you're gonna come here and be all holier than thou why not go back where you came from?
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Old 11-25-2017, 05:04 PM
 
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You are not a native so you wouldn't know, and it's insulting for you to make assumptions about one's education solely based on how they say a word.
I'm glad you feel insulted. You should.
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