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Old 12-04-2017, 09:46 AM
 
Location: East Flatbush, Brooklyn
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NYCT being better now than 1987 isn’t much of an accomplishment even though the worst years were the late 70’s and early 80’s. The better comparison is how does NYCT perform today compared to other world class systems today? London, Paris, Tokyo, Seoul, Moscow, etc? See the first post for the answer.
It's not much of an accomplishment for people who aren't from here and didnt ride the trains regularly going back to the "bad old days." Transplants have no idea, which is why the only thing they have to go on are charts, statistics and comparisons, not actual real world experience.

ETA: BTW, that NYT article linked to in the OP is classic yellow journalism. I'm all for exposing the MTA for all of its issues, but trying to go after it by exaggerating how horrible the subway is in order to drum up discontent (painting it as hellish, the absolute worst, etc.) is just yellow journalism at its finest. Hellish was sitting in a muggy, graffiti-riddled train car in the middle of the summer with A/C in a ride that sounded like a freight train, having the lights go out through the majority of the ride, then navigating your way through filthy and urine-soaked stations. It's not what we have now.

I love it, too, how more than half of the commentators "agreeing" with the article are from out of state, some out of country (even as far away as Bangkok and the UK). Says a lot, really.

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Old 12-04-2017, 01:41 PM
 
Location: Northeast states
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Despite MTA troubles NYC still have best transportation system in country
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Old 12-05-2017, 09:20 AM
 
Location: NYC
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Despite MTA troubles NYC still have best transportation system in country
Which is sad, really sad.. I was in Asia for vacation and marveled at how efficient their trains are and what amazes me is how crowded it is and they still get the job done. It can't happen in America because there are too many entitled Americans that causes delays here.
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Old 12-07-2017, 04:26 AM
 
Location: Great Britain
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London isn't on the list you posted - so what does the list even mean?
You're just paraphrasing the results?
You can pretty much see what London has done.

The tube, stations, lines, signalling and rolling stock has been modernised, with the latest phase just started whilst delays to customers' journeys have been reduced by 37 per cent since 2008/09 and 53 per cent since 2003/04.

At the same time London has invested in Crossrail, Thameslink, London Overground and other such schemes, with other mainline heavy rail stations also having been refurbished and with HS2 now given the go ahead.

In terms of the future London has just completed tunneling in relation to the Underground's Northern Line extension and there are also plans for a new station at Camden which may see the splitting of the Northern Line in to two lines, whilst the Bakerloo line extension is also set to start in the next decade, with Crossrail 2 is also currently being planned.

In terms of London Transport, it is non profit making, with 68% of the fare going towards the every day running of the system and 32% going towards modernisation and improvements.
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Old 12-09-2017, 12:08 PM
 
Location: Northeast states
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Before hipsters and lames arrived in NYC

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