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Old 01-02-2018, 12:42 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Pelham Parkway,The Bronx
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Seriously. Every time I watch the news and there is breaking news about a fire, it is in the Bronx. There was another one last night. 7 alarms, 12 people injured.

What is it with fires and the Bronx?
Really, it just seems that way but there were other deadly fires in other boroughs between the 2 Bronx fires. And did you miss the Brooklyn menorah Fire and the Manhattan high rise fire ?
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Old 01-02-2018, 12:43 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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This particular fire started in a ground floor furniture store at 5:30 am so who knows.Probably had nothing to do with residential tenants,kids ,ignorant immigrants or space heaters. Furniture store was probably closed yesterday too.
Speaking of Bronx residents, you're in "Beautiful Pelham Parkway". How many fires have you had in your neighborhood recently? Funny that I don't hear about fires in Woodlawn, Country Club, Morris Park, City Island, Pelham Gardens Pelham Bay or parts of Throggs Neck.
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Old 01-02-2018, 12:49 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Pelham Parkway,The Bronx
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Speaking of Bronx residents, you're in "Beautiful Pelham Parkway". How many fires have you had in your neighborhood recently? Funny that I don't hear about fires in Woodlawn, Country Club, Morris Park, City Island, Pelham Gardens Pelham Bay or parts of Throggs Neck.
We had one fire about a month ago and like this one it started in a commercial space.
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Old 01-02-2018, 12:50 PM
 
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Its difficult to believe you have somehow never encountered a fire safety drill at the office, at school or anywhere else during your life. I'm not saying you are lying - I'm just incredulous that you never have been told this. (Even accounting for the common sense that a closed door will slow a fire even if its not a fire-door, even if only by 10 seconds which can be the difference between life and death)
At work the Fire Marshall would never cover that as the office environment is open space. They usually only cover emergency exits and exiting procedures. At school, I only learned that be careful if door handle is hot and stay low to the ground to avoid breathing smoke. Strategically closing door as you leave is not something that gets discussed.
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Old 01-02-2018, 12:52 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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At work the Fire Marshall would never cover that as the office environment is open space. They usually only cover emergency exits and exiting procedures. At school, I only covered that be careful if door handle is hot and stay low to the ground to avoid breathing smoke. Strategically closing door as you leave is not something that gets discussed.
We have fire drills in my office building, and they ALWAYS talk about closing the door and keeping the fire out. What's "strategic" about closing the door behind you?
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Old 01-02-2018, 01:08 PM
 
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We have fire drills in my office building, and they ALWAYS talk about closing the door and keeping the fire out. What's "strategic" about closing the door behind you?
All the emergency doors automatically close and the fire is trapped within the floor as a strategy. It is not something discussed nor is it asked of anyone in the office to close the door behind them. You are expected to be courteous as you leave as to not create a stampede and certain people are appointed as the leaders who are responsible for making sure no one gets left behind.

Your comment says more about you working in a old building if you have to close your own doors.
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Old 01-02-2018, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Pelham Parkway,The Bronx
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Looks like the furniture store where the fire started was very large and it took up almost the entire first floor of the building. No wonder the fire engulfed the whole building in a matter of minutes. Big open space filled with wood,upholstery,mattresses ,etc. Couldn’t ask for a better conflagration scenario.
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Old 01-02-2018, 01:35 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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All the emergency doors automatically close and the fire is trapped within the floor as a strategy. It is not something discussed nor is it asked of anyone in the office to close the door behind them. You are expected to be courteous as you leave as to not create a stampede and certain people are appointed as the leaders who are responsible for making sure no one gets left behind.

Your comment says more about you working in a old building if you have to close your own doors.
Most office buildings are old. I work in a historical building, so yes it is old, and of course only small modifications are allowed to it for obvious reasons.
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Old 01-02-2018, 02:38 PM
 
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Again with the “these people don’t know any better” commentary.

Honestly, the close the door thing is something that I do not recall and I have sat through fire safety “training” meetings at work. People, even when told, don’t listen and let’s not forget that when you are in a panic situation, thinking may be clouded. The woman’s gut reaction to grab her kid and run is a natural one. Don’t act like everyone would be in hero mode especially when the safely of family comes first. They are not thinking: save the building and my neighbors! They are thinking: save me and my family! Human instinct is for self preservation, which includes family. To think otherwise means you’re not being honest. I remember a friend telling me that on 9-11 she was evacuating her office building downtown and was on crutches hobbling down the stairs and people were pushig her out of the way to get by!

Anyway, the heavy stairwell doors in my office slam shut as do the doors in my apartment building. And the reason the stairwell doors in my apt building are so heavy (you have pull hard to open) is because they *are* fire doors designed to keep fires from spreading. Also, it’s almost impossible to not shut the doors behind you since it takes extra effort to keep them open. This includes apartment doors. I learned this the hard way when I accidentally locked myself out once because my door slammed shut on my butt nearly knocking me over LOL! Both my office and apartment are new/modernized.
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Old 01-02-2018, 02:42 PM
 
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Most office buildings are old. I work in a historical building, so yes it is old, and of course only small modifications are allowed to it for obvious reasons.
Things like heavy self closing doors would be easy modifications for an old office building. It’s not a structural change.
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