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Old 03-21-2008, 11:31 AM
 
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Hi,
I'm an artist employed in Manhattan who's been commuting to work from Pennsylvania for over a year now. I'm ready to move and I'm considering some Brooklyn neighborhoods. Monday I'm probably going to be looking at an apartment just south of Prospect park on E 17th St & Caton Ave. Is this considered Flatbush, Kensington, or Prospect Park South? And what is this area like? is it reasonably safe? I've heard flatbush and PPS can be a little rough in parts.
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Old 03-21-2008, 02:22 PM
 
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its prospect park south, which is a part of the larger neighborhood of flatbush.

daytime its ok, but nighttime caton avenue is rough, especially from east 17th street to flatbush ave. lots of drug activity, roberries (vehicle and person on person) and loitering in this area. i have family in this area so i'm used to it but you may not be ok with this kind of environment. also if you have a car, forget about finding a parking spot on the street. the neighborhood is so congested people park literally bumper to bumper. also labor day weekend you will be a prisoner your house. west indian brooklyn turns into hell labor day weekend. the only pluses imo for this area is that you can get to manhattan in 15 minutes from the church avenue Q train stop and most of the apartments are pre-war meaning they're big as hell, also depending on the building, you may get a good deal in rent, but you may have an undesirable neighbor or 2. i stress may because this is not always the case.
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Old 03-21-2008, 10:33 PM
 
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I consider that to be Flatbush, but they are always revamping community lines. The neighborhood is definitely heavily invested by violence and way too many people for one block. Like seventhfloor suggested, the apartments will be bigger and you will get more for your dollars, but it comes with a heavy price of noice, parking issues and violence.
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Old 03-22-2008, 12:39 AM
 
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Hi,
I'm an artist employed in Manhattan who's been commuting to work from Pennsylvania for over a year now. I'm ready to move and I'm considering some Brooklyn neighborhoods. Monday I'm probably going to be looking at an apartment just south of Prospect park on E 17th St & Caton Ave. Is this considered Flatbush, Kensington, or Prospect Park South? And what is this area like? is it reasonably safe? I've heard flatbush and PPS can be a little rough in parts.
I'd avoid the area. It's either Prospect Park South (which truly is Flatbush) or Flatbush proper, depending on whom you ask. In any event, it's quite rough at night there. The nearby Parade Grounds are used by drug dealers and hoodlums. NYPD is always around. I think they even have a substation somewhere around the circle, but that hasn't made it all that much safer.

A little farther away, in Kensington (near Green-Wood Cemetery), it's much nicer and safer. The Q train, I think, runs close to Kensington and can take you into Manhattan relatively quickly.
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Old 03-22-2008, 07:54 AM
 
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HollyLynn, I would agree with above postings to some extent but also say that I think it's worth a look. I know at least 7 young (20s-30s) artists who are living in that immediate vicinity, mostly on Parade Place around the corner from your location. One couple recently bought their place and the others are renting. I think it can get a bit dicey at times but so far my friends have not had trouble personally except car vandalism. I don't know how they feel walking from the train (Q) at night but I have been there in the evening and felt ok.

The reasons they moved there are: cheap rent, large apartments, proximity to the park and great access to the Q train which provides a pretty quick commute to Union Sq. versus being near the other subway lines like the F in Kensington.

There are other neighborhoods where the rents are about the same and the streets are a safer, like Kensington and Victorian Ditmas Park (like near the Cortelyou Rd stop on the Q) , and of course parts of Queens. Bay Ridge is further into Brooklyn but it's a beautiful safe, fairly cheap neighborhood.

Where are you commuting to?
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Old 03-22-2008, 04:32 PM
 
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Thanks everyone for the help, I commute to midtown, 44th and 9th right now to be exact. I think I may still check out the place on monday to see what I'd be getting for my money. Thankfully I'll be living with my husband, So I won't be a single girl alone. But I know my husband is'nt used to big city living since we just live in the suburbs now, and I would'nt want to freak him out too much by moving to a real seedy area. I wish I knew how much my husband Dusty will make when we move. Then I'd have a better idea of what we can afford. Right now i'm only basing our budget on my income. I'll be leary of the area unless the apartment building is very nice, I think I may continue searching.
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Old 03-22-2008, 04:38 PM
 
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go look at the apartment and report back to us, we would appreciate hearing your opinion!
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Old 03-22-2008, 07:28 PM
 
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If that apt. doesn't work out, your area of midtown would be perfect for a commute from Queens - neighborhoods along the 7 train or the E train would work best to 44th and 9th. Too bad you don't know where your husband is working yet - that would help. Maybe get a sublet for awhile til you figure things out and then get somewhere more permanent.
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Old 03-25-2008, 11:20 AM
 
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you can also look up the train line a few stops. The Q-Line starts getting a little better every single stop after church avenue. A good compromise might be newkirk avenue which is 1 express stop (2 local stops) away, has tons of shopping, is not as dicey as church ave and is a little quieter.

The general consensus is that park ave south/flatbush is going to get a lot better/more expensive in the near future as the new nets stadium get closer to completion.
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Old 03-25-2008, 12:09 PM
 
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I live on E7th st and Caton Ave. I have walked from the Church Ave station which is at E17th st to my house late at night and never had problems. The area is a little rough, but it is doable. It really depends what you are used to.

I suggest checking the area out in the daytime and specially at night also. See your neighbors and the apartment and see if you could live in such an enviornment.

The area is 80% Carribean and African American. 20% are Orthodox Muslim from Pakistan, Middle East, and Hindus from India. If you cross Coney Island Ave to the East then it gets more gentrified and more quite also.

Daniel
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