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Old 03-07-2018, 10:33 PM
 
Location: Mott Haven, New York
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I'm seeing lots of talk about adding a "Downtown" and rezoning / restructuring. But if this were to ever happen, how would you really feel?

Let's talk about what's already here and now compared to other boroughs.

# of skyscrapers per borough.

Brooklyn - 49
Manhattan - 820
Queens - 27
Staten Island - 0
And then there was the Bronx...


Are you ready?

I don't think you are...

... ...

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The Bronx - 4.

What 4 towers are we talking here?

Are you ready?

I don't think you are... You may want to sit down for this one...

Tracy Towers / River Park Towers. lololol...

In the famous words of a frequent poster here, *they ain't sh*t.* Let's not even get into it, the point is, those developments are the only "skyscrapers" we have, and they are nothing to write home about. (Though, the Harlem River Park Towers actually look nice and are very similar in design to another Waterfront Development by the FDR, in comparison to those god awful Tracey Towers. I'll take RPT design a million times over.)

All other buildings are classified as high-rise. So yeah, those 820 skyscrapers aren't taking consideration to the other 1,000 high-rises in Manhattan. Skyscrapers are buildings 329 feet and up, while high-rises literally top out at 328 feet.

Do you think the Bronx has room for super-talls? Do we need a few more skyscrapers, or just better representation of high-rises that aren't just the clusters you see at NYCHA? Obviously, there is a price to be paid if it happens, but at what cost; what are your thoughts?
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Old 03-07-2018, 10:36 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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Lol. Just lol
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Old 03-08-2018, 08:09 AM
 
Location: Northeast states
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The Projects are high rises in The Bronx
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Old 03-08-2018, 08:19 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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They need to stop developing in Manhattan. The traffic and public transportation system can't handle it. Also a lot of those skycrapers are investment apts that go empty. Steve Jobs bought one for 20 million and never even bought furniture for it. He claimed to have bought it so when he has to travel to NYC he would have a place to stay. But he always stayed in a hotel.
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Old 03-08-2018, 08:39 AM
 
Location: Mott Haven, New York
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They need to stop developing in Manhattan. The traffic and public transportation system can't handle it. Also a lot of those skycrapers are investment apts that go empty. Steve Jobs bought one for 20 million and never even bought furniture for it. He claimed to have bought it so when he has to travel to NYC he would have a place to stay. But he always stayed in a hotel.
I wonder if there is a website that has fill rate data of buildings? Pretty sure most of those developments aren't even at 50% capacity.
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Old 03-08-2018, 08:53 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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I wonder if there is a website that has fill rate data of buildings? Pretty sure most of those developments aren't even at 50% capacity.
Also the amount that landlords allow to go into vacant so they can create a false shortage of apts.
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Old 03-08-2018, 08:56 AM
 
Location: Northeast states
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They need to stop developing in Manhattan. The traffic and public transportation system can't handle it. Also a lot of those skycrapers are investment apts that go empty. Steve Jobs bought one for 20 million and never even bought furniture for it. He claimed to have bought it so when he has to travel to NYC he would have a place to stay. But he always stayed in a hotel.
The tourists and money goes to Manhattan
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Old 03-08-2018, 10:22 AM
 
Location: Manhattan!
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They need to stop developing in Manhattan. The traffic and public transportation system can't handle it. Also a lot of those skycrapers are investment apts that go empty. Steve Jobs bought one for 20 million and never even bought furniture for it. He claimed to have bought it so when he has to travel to NYC he would have a place to stay. But he always stayed in a hotel.
When I used to work in Canarsie (last stop on the L train in Brooklyn), I used to feel like there was something wrong when my platform and train were always nearly empty when I would get on at Lorimer, but the Manhattan-bound side was always a circus. The Manhattan-bound platform and trains were always insanely packed. People sometimes wait for multiple trains to pass until they could get on. Meanwhile, my trains were always empty, and not only did I never have to worry about getting on the train, but there were always plenty of seats available too.

I’m not sure if I agree that Manhattan should stop being developed altogether, but I definitely think that we can afford to develop so much more in the outer boroughs
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Old 03-08-2018, 10:29 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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When I used to work in Canarsie (last stop on the L train in Brooklyn), I used to feel like there was something wrong when my platform and train were always nearly empty when I would get on at Lorimer, but the Manhattan-bound side was always a circus. The Manhattan-bound platform and trains were always insanely packed. People sometimes wait for multiple trains to pass until they could get on. Meanwhile, my trains were always empty, and not only did I never have to worry about getting on the train, but there were always plenty of seats available too.

I’m not sure if I agree that Manhattan should stop being developed altogether, but I definitely think that we can afford to develop so much more in the outer boroughs
What's left in Manhattan? Hudson Yards is in development. Are we going to break ground on Central Park?
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Old 03-08-2018, 12:27 PM
 
Location: Harlem, NY
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Happy af. If they bring a downtown Bx to fruition here go, bx come
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