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Old 03-24-2018, 08:46 AM
 
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http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article...s-bicentennial

And this is in de Blasio's second term, to boot. The city did not fall apart under de Blasio, as some on this forum hoped it would.
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Old 03-24-2018, 09:25 AM
 
Location: New Jersey and hating it
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And this is in de Blasio's second term, to boot. The city did not fall apart under de Blasio, as some on this forum hoped it would.
But what exactly did he do for the city’s economy or is just being a part of the nation’s overall economy that is doing well?
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Old 03-24-2018, 09:30 AM
 
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Yet homelessness is way up, and demand for "affordable housing" is as high as ever. So doesn't matter what the unemployment rate is.
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Old 03-24-2018, 09:35 AM
 
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Yet homelessness is way up, and demand for "affordable housing" is as high as ever.
That's cause half the people homeless or demanding affordable housing are just moving here due to our flawed housing laws.
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Old 03-24-2018, 10:43 AM
 
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Yet homelessness is way up, and demand for "affordable housing" is as high as ever. So doesn't matter what the unemployment rate is.
The employment rate matters not just to all working people, but to businesses, landlords, etc. Because the employment rate is so high, real estate prices are high (there are other factors).

Homeless people are not a part of the job market, nor or people who are on welfare long term..........

And yes some people move to NYC to access homeless services and other forms of help they may not be able to get where they live.

Lots of people with HIV move to NYC to get very generous NYC benefits as people with HIV get apartments paid for by the city up to 1400, $200 worth of food stamps, and $400 a month in cash. I have some friends and relatives who work as social workers or case managers, and a couple who ran agencies. These people did not move to NYC with the intention of working...........

Oh and due to court orders, neither Giuliani nor Bloomberg could shut down this welfare program (both men tried).

Also due to court orders, someone could arrive in NYC at 9 am on Greyhound and if they wanted to apply for welfare benefits, including housing the city cannot discriminate against them as the federal courts ruled that Americans have the right to travel and to apply for welfare wherever they want to.
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Old 03-24-2018, 11:36 AM
 
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There's employed and then there's under-employed and if you make no distinction, it all looks rosy. Then there's the matter of how much that paycheck gets you in terms of quality of life, but they left all those little details out.
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Old 03-24-2018, 11:36 AM
 
Location: New York, NY
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The employment rate matters not just to all working people, but to businesses, landlords, etc. Because the employment rate is so high, real estate prices are high (there are other factors).

Homeless people are not a part of the job market, nor or people who are on welfare long term..........

And yes some people move to NYC to access homeless services and other forms of help they may not be able to get where they live.

Lots of people with HIV move to NYC to get very generous NYC benefits as people with HIV get apartments paid for by the city up to 1400, $200 worth of food stamps, and $400 a month in cash. I have some friends and relatives who work as social workers or case managers, and a couple who ran agencies. These people did not move to NYC with the intention of working...........

Oh and due to court orders, neither Giuliani nor Bloomberg could shut down this welfare program (both men tried).

Also due to court orders, someone could arrive in NYC at 9 am on Greyhound and if they wanted to apply for welfare benefits, including housing the city cannot discriminate against them as the federal courts ruled that Americans have the right to travel and to apply for welfare wherever they want to.
Uh excuse me, but there are various articles out there about working people that are homeless. Too busy running your mouth to listen.
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Old 03-24-2018, 11:46 AM
 
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There's employed and then there's under-employed and if you make no distinction, it all looks rosy. Then there's the matter of how much that paycheck gets you in terms of quality of life, but they left all those little details out.
Yes
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Old 03-24-2018, 12:57 PM
 
Location: Between the Bays
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The employment rate matters not just to all working people, but to businesses, landlords, etc. Because the employment rate is so high, real estate prices are high (there are other factors).

Homeless people are not a part of the job market, nor or people who are on welfare long term..........

And yes some people move to NYC to access homeless services and other forms of help they may not be able to get where they live.

Lots of people with HIV move to NYC to get very generous NYC benefits as people with HIV get apartments paid for by the city up to 1400, $200 worth of food stamps, and $400 a month in cash. I have some friends and relatives who work as social workers or case managers, and a couple who ran agencies. These people did not move to NYC with the intention of working...........

Oh and due to court orders, neither Giuliani nor Bloomberg could shut down this welfare program (both men tried).

Also due to court orders, someone could arrive in NYC at 9 am on Greyhound and if they wanted to apply for welfare benefits, including housing the city cannot discriminate against them as the federal courts ruled that Americans have the right to travel and to apply for welfare wherever they want to.
So you agree that there are far too many issues and factors that can be covered up by a government reported unemployment rate. Or are you also celebrating the success of the Trump Administration's economic policy?
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Old 03-24-2018, 02:32 PM
 
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http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article...s-bicentennial

And this is in de Blasio's second term, to boot. The city did not fall apart under de Blasio, as some on this forum hoped it would.


What of it? Unemployment numbers alone tell nothing nor have they truly ever as anyone who knows anything about statistics/numbers will attest.


If the city is doing so well under B de Boob as you want to make out why is his administration, and or city council constantly forcing private sector to provide for the "poor". This and or doling out tens or hundreds of millions per on various social service programs. This includes the latest proposal to give out free diapers to "poor" parents that cannot provide for their own infants.


There are still people of all walks in life digging through supermarket trash bags. Businesses are closing, empty store fronts are rampant, homeless are at record numbers, and so it goes.


Numbers of those applying for "affordable" housing units are off the charts. And yet more come to this forum daily to wail and moan about their plight and or slight (perceived or actual) by this or that developer as to why they didn't get the low income/affordable housing they deserved.


Yeah there are jobs out there, take your choice; you can deliver for Amazon, Jet or whatever. Drive for Uber, work as a nursing/home health aid/nursing assistant/tech and or any of the other "low tier" and equally low wage jobs that increasing make up a bulk of what is on offer.


Since you've got your degree (from a prestigious Ivy League college at that), am sure you know how crunch numbers: https://labor.ny.gov/stats/pressreleases/pruistat.shtm
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