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Old 04-11-2018, 02:27 PM
 
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Oh this is so going to be good!


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If these egits make one move on large parts of SI, UES, west Brooklyn, and so forth there will be a great noise.
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Old 04-11-2018, 02:55 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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Oh this is so going to be good!


https://ny.curbed.com/2018/4/11/1722...ander#comments


If these egits make one move on large parts of SI, UES, west Brooklyn, and so forth there will be a great noise.
I'd move if they tried this crap in my neighborhood. If I wanted to live the ghetto I could easily do so.
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Old 04-11-2018, 03:01 PM
 
Location: Harlem, NY
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First off, SI’s safe. nobody wants to live there. 2nd. With the kickbacks thrown at developers for affordable housing all they got to do is make it more lucrative for developers to include people of color. Rezoning for minorities and all that won’t happen. This is essentially much ado about nothing
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Old 04-11-2018, 03:09 PM
 
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Now that's funny.

New buildings do come up in good neighborhoods,setting aside 10 0/0 of apartments to a certain income bracket, and the rest market rate,all while getting that tax break.


You ain't de segregating foreigners to neighborhood s that don't speak their native language . Only certain groups will go for it. You can't just drop a busload of Africans in Maspeth without a fight., Get it?

Large scale PJs is not the answer. Maybe a revised section 8 voucher that landlords will be glad to accept?
Maybe buy and refurbish abandoned homes, and let a family pay it off? Maybe educate the kids in school, before they become adults?
Teach them how to budget and how to handle a marriage and family?

The perception in this city is that once a housing project or housing for the very poor comes around, property values drop, people take flight. No one wants to stick around. Much of it is true, so why keep on doing the same old?

Build it in SI. ,LIC,Midtown between 8th and lexington, on Park Avenue, and right by Gracie Mansion, in Bayside and Bay Ridge. But in the long run, you are still not de segregating by a long shot.

I recently had to go to a business by the Astoria Houses and Goodwill Industries. 4th and 27th ave. Decent location with a view of the water nearby. The PJs are there, but it is filled with one kind. It's like no one wants to live there.

Many buildings just sitting there empty, waiting for the right time. Tucked on 26th avenue. It is far from the train, so a 2 fare zone. Incredible these properties just sit there, because of segregation.
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Old 04-11-2018, 04:29 PM
 
Location: New Jersey!!!!
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Hmm. So only 1/4 citizens of a majority minority city live in “de-segregated” areas. Think about what that means for a minute.
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Old 04-11-2018, 06:19 PM
 
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It sounds like a good plan.
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Old 04-12-2018, 12:40 AM
 
Location: NYC
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Socialism doesn't work in the capitalist capital.
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Old 04-12-2018, 03:27 AM
 
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This will not work.

Nobody likes to be socially engineered.

You cannot artificially make a neighborhood change. When actual substantive policies are used to stop economic inequality, neighborhoods will naturally desegregate. However, there will always be some form of segregation because people like living with people who talk, look, and act like them.
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Old 04-12-2018, 04:38 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Hmm. So only 1/4 citizens of a majority minority city live in “de-segregated” areas. Think about what that means for a minute.
People stick to their own flock. All this diversity Mambo Jambo is just Mambo Jambo.
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Old 04-12-2018, 05:17 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn the best borough in NYC!
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I think their choice to pick Gowanus first is a good idea!
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