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Old 06-06-2018, 10:36 AM
 
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The real question is whether it correct to have one size fit all classroom? Should the kid who aspires for ivy league be force to be in the same classroom as a kid who has normal aspirations.

For many parents and kids, it is a lifestyle and not a spare of the moment initiative. You won't be competing with a white or asian kid that is receiving further supplementary education that NYC public school doesn't provide.

For asian families, it start as early as 4 years old and continues until college. They attend community learning centers after school and during the weekend with the aim of one day being admitted to one of the more prestigious universities. It is not something that get decided at the last minute before graduating middle school.
Not all students at specialized schools now aspire to an Ivy League education. I think it's a minority who will ultimately go to one.
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Old 06-06-2018, 10:39 AM
 
Location: In the heights
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Not all students at specialized schools now aspire to an Ivy League education. I think it's a minority who will ultimately go to one.
Also, there are a lot of schools now for undergrad that are as good or better than the Ivies.

I'm wondering if the Excelsior grant and the crippling cost of college education means that some of the CUNY and SUNY schools are going to have a rapid rise.
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Old 06-06-2018, 10:40 AM
 
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But where exactly are Asian kids going to middle school that don't also have a large Latino population?
Why is that pertinent to your quote?
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Old 06-06-2018, 10:41 AM
 
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Why is that pertinent to your quote?
Because you were implying that middle schools Asian kids go to better middle schools
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Old 06-06-2018, 10:42 AM
 
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Also, there are a lot of schools now for undergrad that are as good or better than the Ivies.

I'm wondering if the Excelsior grant and the crippling cost of college education means that some of the CUNY and SUNY schools are going to have a rapid rise.
I think they'll become harder to get into.
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Old 06-06-2018, 10:43 AM
 
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Because you were implying that middle schools Asian kids go to better middle schools
I wasn't. I said that some schools offer SHSAT prep courses while others don't.
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Old 06-06-2018, 10:56 AM
 
Location: Old Town Alexandria & NYC
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The real question is whether it correct to have one size fit all classroom? Should the kid who aspires for ivy league be force to be in the same classroom as a kid who has normal aspirations.

For many parents and kids, it is a lifestyle and not a spare of the moment initiative. You won't be competing with a white or asian kid that is receiving further supplementary education that NYC public school doesn't provide.

For asian families, it start as early as 4 years old and continues until college. They attend community learning centers after school and during the weekend with the aim of one day being admitted to one of the more prestigious universities. It is not something that get decided at the last minute before graduating middle school.
The bolded text is an exaggeration. Furthermore, there are vast differences in overall academic achievement between Southeast and East Asian students.
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Old 06-06-2018, 11:16 AM
 
Location: Manhattan
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It’s oublic school and it should be open enrolment. As I understand it de Blasio will just admit the people with top GPAs from selected schools around the city.
Oh, yeah. And that's open enrollment...says no one.

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Old 06-06-2018, 11:20 AM
 
Location: Manhattan
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You're probably right.

To be honest, I was always surprised that affirmative action had not been utilized yet for the specialized high schools.
No other mayor would touch it. Not even Dinkins. How interesting De Blasio is trying to implement this now only after his son has safely graduated from B'klyn Tech.
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Old 06-06-2018, 11:42 AM
 
Location: Bronx, New York
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Oh, yeah. And that's open enrollment.
Top GPA's plus "just below the cutoff," plus summer school! Folk done forgot, or ignored, the fact that HEOP does this with colleges, and has been successful for going over 50 years.....!
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