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Old 06-04-2018, 12:57 PM
 
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So rather then accept the best students , everyone has to be brought down to the lowest level, all in the name of "justice". But don't worry, the elitist uber liberals who promote this garbage will insulate themselves from the very minorities they claim they want to help. Another NYC institution down the tubes, just like CUNY...lol
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Old 06-04-2018, 01:18 PM
 
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Some folks need to see the big picture with deblasio and Coumo. They are doing alot to gain points with the working class people. They have both done pretty good.

This new thing, which DeBlasio and the new head of the BoE are trying to accomplish is a good step in the right direction.

Just think of all the kids being brought to the Bronx for a superior free education, and none of them even live in the borough. Asian, middle eastern, Caucasians, are the majority of the students, while the Bronx is not as diversified.

These students parents pay for private prep courses ,so they can ace the entrance exam, while other parents may not be able to afford such privalage.so unless the parents have they extra cash laying around, the students don't stand a chance getting in.

There should be more specialized schools in the city, and more readily available spots for all the potential students.

The only ones crying about this new plan are blatant racist and a small number of parents that paid extra for testing. If you don't have kids,your voice does not count. Any sound minded NYer would see this is a step in the right direction.

Perhaps people are scared of AA and Hispanic students becoming too smart. How else would the prison,police, and bigot Fs make money for the city/state?
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Old 06-04-2018, 02:29 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, New York
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These students parents pay for private prep courses ,so they can ace the entrance exam, while other parents may not be able to afford such privalage.so unless the parents have they extra cash laying around, the students don't stand a chance getting in.
This is not true at all. About half of students at specialized schools are low income. Even a lot of white students at these schools are immigrants from Russia/Eastern Europe. Specialized schools are not majority white either, all of them are majority minority schools, they are just a "wrong" minority. Majority of students in specialized schools are coming from poor/working/immigrant class.

Whats blatantly racist is admitting people purely based on race or color of their skin. I don't understand why a black privileged child of Colin Powell should get a preferential treatment over an asian child of poor Chinese food workers.
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Old 06-04-2018, 04:11 PM
 
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As Someone who graduated from a NYC Specialized High School
I busted my ass studying and attending all free tutor sessions etc ,
Single parent home ,low income etc
I traveled every day back and forth from Brooklyn to Manhattan
because i wanted it so bad .
Had to keep my grades up very few absences
did every extra credit opportunity that presented it self .

I think some children today are just lazy !

I feel the true solution would be to offer more widespread free test prep and summer enrichment programs to those students
that want to apply themselves .

I would have never wanted to attend my school because i came from a low income family !

How will these children hold up in class ?
The students are highly motivated and very invested in there education .

im conflicted .
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Old 06-04-2018, 04:27 PM
 
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Some folks need to see the big picture with deblasio and Coumo. They are doing alot to gain points with the working class people. They have both done pretty good.

This new thing, which DeBlasio and the new head of the BoE are trying to accomplish is a good step in the right direction.

Just think of all the kids being brought to the Bronx for a superior free education, and none of them even live in the borough. Asian, middle eastern, Caucasians, are the majority of the students, while the Bronx is not as diversified.

These students parents pay for private prep courses ,so they can ace the entrance exam, while other parents may not be able to afford such privalage.so unless the parents have they extra cash laying around, the students don't stand a chance getting in.

There should be more specialized schools in the city, and more readily available spots for all the potential students.

The only ones crying about this new plan are blatant racist and a small number of parents that paid extra for testing. If you don't have kids,your voice does not count. Any sound minded NYer would see this is a step in the right direction.

Perhaps people are scared of AA and Hispanic students becoming too smart. How else would the prison,police, and bigot Fs make money for the city/state?

You don't know what you're talking about.


There is nothing great about pushing people into places or whatever where they have not proven themselves worthy of being.


Nothing is worse for performing students than having to sit in a class where instructors have to repeat things over and over, and or dumb things down because those who cannot hack the work just don't get it.


Always the same thing from you people; even when local and federal government has bent ass backwards (and spent vast sums in the process), there is always some reason why certain persons cannot or will not make the cut. In that case your answer is always same; lower the bar.
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Old 06-04-2018, 04:52 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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Some folks need to see the big picture with deblasio and Coumo. They are doing alot to gain points with the working class people. They have both done pretty good.

This new thing, which DeBlasio and the new head of the BoE are trying to accomplish is a good step in the right direction.

Just think of all the kids being brought to the Bronx for a superior free education, and none of them even live in the borough. Asian, middle eastern, Caucasians, are the majority of the students, while the Bronx is not as diversified.

These students parents pay for private prep courses ,so they can ace the entrance exam, while other parents may not be able to afford such privalage.so unless the parents have they extra cash laying around, the students don't stand a chance getting in.

There should be more specialized schools in the city, and more readily available spots for all the potential students.

The only ones crying about this new plan are blatant racist and a small number of parents that paid extra for testing. If you don't have kids,your voice does not count. Any sound minded NYer would see this is a step in the right direction.

Perhaps people are scared of AA and Hispanic students becoming too smart. How else would the prison,police, and bigot Fs make money for the city/state?
The motive is good, this implementation is the wrong tool. I agree with the need for more specialized high schools or simply more good high schools in general.
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Old 06-04-2018, 04:58 PM
 
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The motive is good, this implementation is the wrong tool. I agree with the need for more specialized high schools or simply more good high schools in general.


Need is for more dumb as dirt people to stop having children they cannot afford, nor are equipment on many levels to bring up. This and their plopping those children at schools insisting the city provide what they cannot or will not do.


Asians live in often the same areas as these so called "disadvantaged" AAs/Latino-Hispanic children, and or have the same obstacles (low income/poverty, lack of affordable housing, etc....) yet somehow, somehow they manage to do well at school, get into good high schools then onto college and make something of themselves.


Asian kids living in cramped (ghetto) apartments shared with several persons somehow manage to do well at school; this while often having to help at family business and so forth.


Now why is all of that?
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Old 06-04-2018, 04:59 PM
 
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And people thought David Dinkins was a terrible mayor.
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Old 06-04-2018, 05:03 PM
 
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Need is for more dumb as dirt people to stop having children they cannot afford, nor are equipment on many levels to bring up. This and their plopping those children at schools insisting the city provide what they cannot or will not do.


Asians live in often the same areas as these so called "disadvantaged" AAs/Latino-Hispanic children, and or have the same obstacles (low income/poverty, lack of affordable housing, etc....) yet somehow, somehow they manage to do well at school, get into good high schools then onto college and make something of themselves.


Asian kids living in cramped (ghetto) apartments shared with several persons somehow manage to do well at school; this while often having to help at family business and so forth.


Now why is all of that?
Meh, Mr Stereotype

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Old 06-04-2018, 06:24 PM
 
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It does need to be fixed, but they're going about it the wrong way
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