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Old 06-23-2019, 04:30 PM
 
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Since taxpayers pay for public schools, all public school students deserved the same resources. Ax the specialized schools.

Anyone who wants specialized services for their kids is more than welcome to pay for them.
Each child should be educated according to his/her ability.
Both special needs children and academically talented children, and everyone in between.
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Old 06-23-2019, 07:20 PM
 
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Since taxpayers pay for public schools, all public school students deserved the same resources. Ax the specialized schools.

Anyone who wants specialized services for their kids is more than welcome to pay for them.

So I guess you'll get rid of that when you get rid of the Title 1 supplemental funds.
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Old 06-23-2019, 08:37 PM
 
Location: Between the Bays
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Since taxpayers pay for public schools, all public school students deserved the same resources. Ax the specialized schools.

Anyone who wants specialized services for their kids is more than welcome to pay for them.
Might as well ax Ivy League schools too while at it. They are nothing more but breeding grounds for systemic racism.
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Old 06-23-2019, 08:47 PM
 
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Might as well ax Ivy League too while at it.
Ivy League universities are private institutions, whereas specialized NYC H.S.'s like Brooklyn tech, Stuyvesant and Bronx School of science are public schools.

I don't believe specialized schools should be erased, but I also don't believe the admissions determination should be contingent upon ONLY one test.

There should be a minimum score needed on the exam, but why not also include additional factors, such as GPA, and recommendations from teachers/school administrators and volunteer organizations?

Since the specialized schools are public, the city can do whatever they wish with regard to the admissions standards. If the parents have an issue with it, they can always pay out of pocket for private schools.
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Old 06-23-2019, 09:29 PM
 
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Ivy League universities are private institutions, whereas specialized NYC H.S.'s like Brooklyn tech, Stuyvesant and Bronx School of science are public schools.

I don't believe specialized schools should be erased, but I also don't believe the admissions determination should be contingent upon ONLY one test.

There should be a minimum score needed on the exam, but why not also include additional factors, such as GPA, and recommendations from teachers/school administrators and volunteer organizations?

Since the specialized schools are public, the city can do whatever they wish with regard to the admissions standards. If the parents have an issue with it, they can always pay out of pocket for private schools.
Why not include additional factors? ... because they're subjective to a point.
The exam is not.

The City can't do whatever it wants... it's state law that sets the bar for these schools.


Keep creating institutes to help students along prepare for these exams and cram classes at whatever middle schools are interested in having them.

Children who can't ace these exams will not be prepared for content that students who did ace them undertake. The test's goal is segregation of scholastic aptitude, not anything else. This is standard college prep.
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Old 06-23-2019, 09:37 PM
 
Location: Squirrel Tree
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So I guess you'll get rid of that when you get rid of the Title 1 supplemental funds.
Stuy is Title 1 for poverty rate
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Old 06-23-2019, 09:41 PM
 
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Why not include additional factors? ... because they're subjective to a point.
The exam is not.
The standardized exam is not a true indicator of a student's overall knowledge or scholastic abilities. There are some students who are able to master test taking and rote learning, while others are more creative or may not be the strongest of test takers.

There's a reason why Ivy League universities do not rely strictly on SAT or ACT scores. They understand that the best learning takes place when you have highly intelligent, engaged students with diverse perspectives and learning styles.
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Old 06-23-2019, 10:27 PM
 
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Stuy, Bronx Science, etc are essentially magnet schools for science and math. They do offer classes in the arts, but that was not their intended focus. Any gifted student who is interested in the arts should apply to LaGuardia, Frank Sinatra, etc.
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Old 06-24-2019, 04:30 AM
 
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Might as well ax Ivy League schools too while at it. They are nothing more but breeding grounds for systemic racism.
Good luck trying, they are endowed by the Nation’s wealthiest individuals.

Specialized schools in NYC serve poor immigrant trash.

The city and state may alter them as they please.
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Old 06-24-2019, 04:32 AM
 
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Each child should be educated according to his/her ability.
Both special needs children and academically talented children, and everyone in between.
It’s not the job of public school to educate someone to their supposed so called ability. The parents can pay for the additional services required, if they are needed.
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