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Old 06-28-2018, 09:57 AM
 
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Yeah...I know what you're saying.
Like most ppl who commented aint even Black lol

Why the fascination guys?
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Old 06-28-2018, 10:09 AM
 
Location: New York, NY
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Like most ppl who commented aint even Black lol

Why the fascination guys?
Well how many posters in this forum are black besides you and a handful of others? lol
 
Old 06-28-2018, 10:58 AM
 
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Argentina is one of the whitest nations outside of Europe. I once said why don't white nationalist move to Argentina and build a collectivist socialist white nation there?
I suggest that you take a look at their world cup team and then opine again. There is a fairly substantial % of Argentines who are mestizo.
 
Old 06-28-2018, 11:18 AM
 
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Well how many posters in this forum are black besides you and a handful of others? lol
I dont know, but what's your point?
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Old 06-28-2018, 11:21 AM
 
Location: New York, NY
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I dont know, but what's your point?
The point is if there aren't many black posters, then those who respond here (and elsewhere) likely won't be black. lol
 
Old 06-28-2018, 11:23 AM
 
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The point is if there aren't many black posters, then those who respond here (and elsewhere) likely won't be black. lol
That's not really what I'm asking.

If there are really not many Black regular posters on the NYC forum, then how and why did this manage to go 35 pages? That's what I'm asking. Are Black people that fascinating to others outside of their race?
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Old 06-28-2018, 11:25 AM
 
Location: New York, NY
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That's not really what I'm asking.

If there are really not many Black regular posters on the NYC forum, then how and why did this manage to go 35 pages? That's what I'm asking. Are Black people that fascinating to others outside of their race?
Asking the obvious question... Of course. Haven't you heard white people saying that they're so boring and how bland their backgrounds are? LOL!
 
Old 06-28-2018, 11:30 AM
 
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Asking the obvious question... Of course. Haven't you heard white people saying that they're so boring and how bland their backgrounds are? LOL!
You're funny
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Old 06-28-2018, 11:31 AM
 
Location: Bronx
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I suggest that you take a look at their world cup team and then opine again. There is a fairly substantial % of Argentines who are mestizo.
I hope you know that some of Argentina national players are not from Argentina. If if offers you any consolation. Juan peron is a mestizo. On the other hand Che Guevara is white, especially with his Irish/basque heritage.
 
Old 06-28-2018, 11:33 AM
 
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Dude, a big insult for Black Americans is for Black people to make fun of how Black and ugly someone is.

Self hatred happens due to colonialism and the racism/persecution that Black people have dealt with in the US, Puerto Rico, Brazil, among other places.
While what you say is true there is a counteracting narrative to that among black Americans and blacks from the non Hispanic Caribbean. Emancipation Day is a holiday in virtually every single country in the English speaking Caribbean, and with that a narrative about slavery and its ongoing impacts. In fact these nations, together with Suriname, are also demanding reparations from their former colonizers.

I think that only in Cuba have we historically seen a narrative to counteract the self hatred, this being because racism in Cuba was so blatant that to pretend otherwise would have been silly.


To the degree that we now see this narrative emerging in other parts of Latin America is because "black identified" peoples have been exposed to media representations of black Americans and to a lesser degree non Hispanic Caribbean blacks. So the narrative has now flowed over. In Brazil it has now reached the point where it is increasingly difficult for people to deny the existence of racism/colorism. The same can also be said for Colombia with groups from Choco being especially vocal. But even now many "black" Latin Americans remain uncomfortable discussing this topic fearing that it will alienate non blacks, and so narratives of race remain dominated by the white/mestizo populations.

In the case of the Dominicans discussions about their own attitudes to "blackness" and attitudes about their African ancestries has begun mainly in reaction to accusations that their Haitian problem is due to Dominican self hate. In order to confront the narrative that anti Haitianism is rooted in Dominican self hate there has been increasing discussions about colorism among Dominicans and acknowledgment of the impact of Africa on the Dominican identity. This so that their "Haitian problem" would be defined as one of uncontrolled immigration, and not one of anti black sentiments.

Up to the 80s Dominicans saw themselves as a piece of Spain cursed by being lodged on the same island with a bunch of "savage" Africans, with all of the stereotypes including accusations of cannibalism. Even now most Dominicans react angrily to any suggestion that it is the most Afro-descendant nation in Latin America. When Balaguer wrote his white supremacist dogma there was not a prominent voice in the DR to condemn it. Only in a Latin nation could such bigotry have been openly peddled without loud condemnation.

So while the scourge of PTSD (Post Traumatic Slave Disorder) exists throughout the Americas blacks in the non Hispanic Caribbean and especially in the USA have been much more vocal in identifying this and in condemning this and in shaming those who openly perpetrate it. The Black Power movement in the USA in fact played a major role in giving blacks in the English speaking Caribbean a narrative to discuss the revulsion of things African and the self hatred which were dominant factors up to the mid 60s.

I will leave you with this. If blacks in the USA weren't vocally in confronting not only racism but the self hatred that it generated the rest of us, including those of us in the English speaking Caribbean, would have retained even more backward attitudes than is currently the case. It was in the USA where racism was so all embracing and horrendous that the distinctions between Afro descendants in skin color, and phenotype paled in comparison with the fact that all were marginalized by law in the South and by custom every where else. So it was in the USA where there was more space for discussions of this topic because the racism was so blatant that it couldn't be denied.
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