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Old 07-18-2018, 10:52 AM
 
Location: New York, NY
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All that does not explain why the insurance companies were so eager to make these payments.
I wouldn't say eager per se... More like they didn't do their due diligence or maybe they were getting their hands greased as well.
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Old 07-19-2018, 05:16 AM
 
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I noticed 2 areas in the Central Bronx that seemed to have mostly survived the arson wave.

The areas near the 174th St 2 station and the Whitlock Ave 6 station

Mott Haven is really hit or miss, large chunks of it were destroyed but there are still blocks full of original architecture.

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Old 07-19-2018, 07:55 AM
 
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I noticed 2 areas in the Central Bronx that seemed to have mostly survived the arson wave.

The areas near the 174th St 2 station and the Whitlock Ave 6 station

Mott Haven is really hit or miss, large chunks of it were destroyed but there are still blocks full of original architecture.
Whitlock was just North of where the devastaion was. South of Whitlock across the Bronx River begins the Hunts PT area.
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Old 08-07-2019, 11:58 AM
 
Location: Southeast US
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South of Fordham RD from University to the Bronx River, west to East was decimated.
Yes, and in an amazingly short period of time. Liberals destroyed the Bronx.
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Old 08-07-2019, 12:03 PM
 
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All you have to do is walk around and take a Google tour and you can see what areas. A lot of the South Bronx (Melrose, Morrisania, etc.) Most of the areas near subways were hit hard.

When white flight occurred, whites generally moved to the more isolated parts of the Bronx or left the Bronx entirely. For example, when the Jews fled the South Bronx, they moved to areas like Riverdale, and the Irish fled Norwood for Woodlawn. Throggs Neck (which is devoid of subways) was still highly respected as a middle to upper middle class neighborhood while most of the Bronx was a no go. The same is true for just about all of the other areas that are considered good neighborhoods. (Riverdale, Country Club, City Island, Pelham Bay, Pelham Parkway, Morris Park, etc.)

Parkchester is generally thought of as the complex, but people who live outside the complex refer to themselves as living in Parkchester as well (as in the general area). It should be noted that there was heavy discrimination to keep the Parkchester neighborhood mainly white, so the neighborhood did not look like what it looks like today (demographics wise).

The Bronx has a very interesting history. Neighborhoods were highly segregated and have remained so until recently. If you look at a lot of the white majority neighborhoods, they were mainly white until only recently when Hispanics and/or other groups started to move in.
And now of course, the Bronx is America's poorest Congressional District---see what voting for Liberals does for 'ya!
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Old 08-07-2019, 12:36 PM
 
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I noticed 2 areas in the Central Bronx that seemed to have mostly survived the arson wave.

The areas near the 174th St 2 station and the Whitlock Ave 6 station

Mott Haven is really hit or miss, large chunks of it were destroyed but there are still blocks full of original architecture.
174th along the 2 line was absolutely demolished back in the day.

A lot of posters here are looking at maps looking for pre-war buildings to determine if that block was decimated. Many many buildings didn't burn but were simply abandoned and the windows bricked up eventually. Some of the blocks we are saying escaped the plague were in fact part of the desolation until the city stepped in late in the 90s and began rehabbing them.

Edit to add: half of the Lower East Side that is prime real estate today were once abandoned bricked up buildings too. You'd never guess by looking now.

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Old 08-07-2019, 02:37 PM
 
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Yes, and in an amazingly short period of time. Liberals destroyed the Bronx.
Exactly! Buildings were built in the 1920's and 1930's and needed renovation. The problems was the rent-controlled rents were so low, there was no money to make improvements.

When Coop City was built, tens of thousands of Jews from the South Bronx moved out. Now the landlords were stuck with empty apartments that hadn't been renovated for decades. And there were no vacancy allowances.

So what happens when your income is X, your expenses are 2X, and not even a loan shark would lend you money? Either burn it down or walk away. The buildings were worth LESS THAN ZERO.

Thank you liberals/socialists and others for the destruction of the South Bronx, Harlem, and other neighborhoods.
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Old 08-07-2019, 05:14 PM
 
Location: Harlem, NY
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I say most of the South Bronx was eviscerated. River to river.

The Bronx has come a long way but they have to do something with 149th st
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Old 04-23-2020, 12:56 AM
 
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Question, would the South Bronx look very similar to East Harlem had the buildings survived?

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7906...7i16384!8i8192

As in, mostly blocks that look like this as opposed to what it is now
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Old 04-23-2020, 08:25 AM
 
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Question, would the South Bronx look very similar to East Harlem had the buildings survived?

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7906...7i16384!8i8192

As in, mostly blocks that look like this as opposed to what it is now
There are parts of the South Bronx that do look similar to East Harlem, like Melrose/Courtlandt Avenues and surrounding streets.
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