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Old 08-28-2018, 10:59 AM
 
Location: New York, NY
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Old 08-28-2018, 11:15 AM
 
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The building design and adaptability to it's surroundings, is atrocious.

"The change mandated squatter buildings ..."

In this scenario, what exactly is a squatter building?

Are squatters equal to everything except this monstrosity they want to build up?
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Old 08-28-2018, 04:43 PM
 
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The crusty old WASPs of Sutton Place who are largely behind opposition to this building have filed numerous legal actions; all lost.


These ossified dinosaurs somehow just don't get the message that NYC (Manhattan in particular) is changing. Used to running their white glove (and largely white only) Sutton and Beekman Place co-ops and rentals they still believe WASPs and or at least persons like themselves run the city as well.


Even Uma Thurman couldn't take it any longer; just a few years after getting into River House, she's selling and looking for a place downtown.
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Old 08-28-2018, 04:54 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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The crusty old WASPs of Sutton Place who are largely behind opposition to this building have filed numerous legal actions; all lost.


These ossified dinosaurs somehow just don't get the message that NYC (Manhattan in particular) is changing. Used to running their white glove (and largely white only) Sutton and Beekman Place co-ops and rentals they still believe WASPs and or at least persons like themselves run the city as well.


Even Uma Thurman couldn't take it any longer; just a few years after getting into River House, she's selling and looking for a place downtown.
lol Oh boy. God forbid anyone stands up for preservation of the neighborhood. These developers are taking over the City and they need to be stopped. Most of what is going up is absolute garbage, and since that are has been zoned as a historical area, I side with them in that the building should not be allowed to go up, at least not at its current height.

Everything is being built as "luxury". TONS of buildings going up and yet we still have a housing crisis. It's just absurd.
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Old 08-28-2018, 04:56 PM
 
Location: Manhattan
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The crusty old WASPs
They maybe crusty and old but...they're not all WASP's. Know plenty of Jewish people who live there.
Unless you were just saying that for effect.
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Old 08-28-2018, 04:58 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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They maybe crusty and old but...they're not all WASP's. Know plenty of Jewish people who live there.
Unless you were just saying that for effect.
Agreed... There are fewer and fewer WASPS around these days anyway.
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Old 08-28-2018, 05:02 PM
 
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lol Oh boy. God forbid anyone stands up for preservation of the neighborhood. These developers are taking over the City and they need to be stopped. Most of what is going up is absolute garbage, and since that are has been zoned as a historical area, I side with them in that the building should not be allowed to go up, at least not at its current height.

Everything is being built as "luxury". TONS of buildings going up and yet we still have a housing crisis. It's just absurd.
Development is happening all over Manhattan/NYC, what makes Sutton Place so special?


If the wealthy on the UES, UWS and so forth can get over it; so to should the residents of Sutton Place.


Again this story (and battle for that matter) isn't new; do yourself a favor and research various media coverage. These "residents" have pulled every NIMBY stunt possible to stop what was (and still largely is) an as of right development.


https://therealdeal.com/2017/11/30/g...s-on-rezoning/

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Old 08-28-2018, 05:03 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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The basics of it is, if transit isn't immensely improved and secondary employment and retail centers with good transit access aren't created, then this will just continue to happen as long as people keep coming here or having children.
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Old 08-28-2018, 05:09 PM
 
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They maybe crusty and old but...they're not all WASP's. Know plenty of Jewish people who live there.
Unless you were just saying that for effect.

So do I, and the Jews are equally as crusty as the old WASPS. Mind you am referring to area primarily east of First; west is another matter.
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Old 08-28-2018, 05:11 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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Development is happening all over Manhattan/NYC, what makes Sutton Place so special?


If the wealthy on the UES, UWS and so forth can get over it; so to should the residents of Sutton Place.


Again this story (and battle for that matter) isn't new; do yourself a favor and research various media coverage.
I'm sorry, but I disagree. I live in a historic area as well, and I moved there precisely for that reason. I'll be damned if I'm going to let de Blasio let the developers walk in and have their way. They should continue to fight and try to preserve their neighborhood. The UWS... Please. It's mainly transplants that don't have a clue. On the UES, most of what is going up isn't in the heart of the wealth such as 5th. I've seen a few buildings go up. One was recently completed last year along 86th between Madison and Park. It is built within the scale of other buildings in the area. We hired attorneys and fought like hell for years until the development was shelved and shelved for good. They will put luxury buildings in instead that are within scale of the area, not these monstrosities.
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