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If you've seen the Sopranos, you know at least two instances when Zips were brought over from Sicily.
Tony S. while in Italy doing some business is impressed with how the guys handle themselves, and brings Furio Giunta over.
Furio becomes Tony's "enforcer" precisely because he is what is he is; a Zip that don't give an eff. Boss sends him on job, he's going to get it done. Period.
In "real life" such as it is; Zips were often brought over from Sicily to do a job for several reasons. One, they don't give an eff; they have a job and they get it done. Two, because they weren't Americans chances of them being in NYPD, FBI or anyone else's fingerprint database was nil. By time LE figured out who did a hit or whatever (if they ever did), the Zips would be safely back in Italy. Today of course with Interpol and other electronic databases that is no longer really true. If someone is arrested anywhere in the world FBI/local LE can now usually get their prints.
Other instance on Sopranos when Zips were brought over is when Johnny Sacks orders hit on Rusty Millio. Being cautious Tony S. brings a couple of guys over from Sicily to do the job.
Given what one said above, these Zips obviously do not have any sort of criminal record or anything else that would trip American immigration officials, otherwise they wouldn't have been even allowed to leave Sicily on plane for USA. That and or would have been denied entry/sent right back.
I was at a party with Furio recently. My friend is close with him.
Non ti preoccupar'.... That scene where he beats the crap out of that junkie and his girlfriend is hilarious. He keeps saying don't worry in Italian and then continues punching the crap out of the woman and the guy. Any thought that they were going to not pay up were pretty much made nil by his actions.
Non ti preoccupar'.... That scene where he beats the crap out of that junkie and his girlfriend is hilarious. He keeps saying don't worry in Italian and then continues punching the crap out of the woman and the guy. Any thought that they were going to not pay up were pretty much made nil by his actions.
Not a "junkie", but it was an Asian "rub and tug" place that wouldn't pay protection money. So Tony sent Furio in to change their minds. That is why the woman keeps saying "ok, ok, we pay".... The old guy was getting taken care of in back before Furio busted in and busted him up.
Being a Zip Furio had no qualms about beating down a woman like that; some other guys may have thought twice. Well not Paulie Walnuts who went around jacking old ladies for their life savings, or maybe Ralphie Cifaretto who beat (and killed) his pregnant gf but didn't care because she was a "whoaaa".
The accents of those who did speak Sicilian in Sopranos was kind of all over the place. Federico Castelluccio (Furio) gets it right much of the time.
Not a "junkie", but it was an Asian "rub and tug" place that wouldn't pay protection money. So Tony sent Furio in to change their minds. That is why the woman keeps saying "ok, ok, we pay".... The old guy was getting taken care of in back before Furio busted in and busted him up.
Being a Zip Furio had no qualms about beating down a woman like that; some other guys may have thought twice. Well not Paulie Walnuts who went around jacking old ladies for their life savings, or maybe Ralphie Cifaretto who beat (and killed) his pregnant gf but didn't care because she was a "whoaaa".
The accents of those who did speak Sicilian in Sopranos was kind of all over the place. Federico Castelluccio (Furio) gets it right much of the time.
He most certainly was a junkie. That's why he kept coming up short to pay Chrissy. Christopher lets him know that it's unacceptable that he has money for getting high but not to pay up. That's when Tony sends in Furio to send both of them a message since the Asian chick was pretty hell bent on standing firm. lol
As for the accents, not all of the guys were Sicilian. Furio and Paulie's family were supposed to be from Naples (Campania region). I believe at least part of Tony's family was from the area as well (a small town nearby). I've been down there and have friends either from the region or near there. The Neapolitan dialect is distinct and funny as hell. Sounds beautiful when put to music (think Pino Daniele). Sicilian is a different animal entirely. The thing with dialects is they really aren't written but rather spoken so unless you speak it at home, good luck picking it up. My father's family spoke it (Siciliano) at home only, and I speak very little of it. When I lived in Italy, I lived in Tuscany, and thus I speak with a noticeable Florentine accent (very clean Italian). Tuscany doesn't have a real dialect. It's said to be the birthplace of Italian.
The ones in the mafia here or Italian-Americans crack me up. That scene with Carmela trying to bribe the Georgetown alumna with "rigot" pie (lol) (ricotta pie) cracks me up, since I speak Italian. I just love how they cut everything here. Another scene that has me laughing non-stop is when the three women are in Artie Buco's restaurant and one of them admits to planning their divorce, people start looking at them, and without thinking, one of them says "Effin nosy...Eat ya manicot'!" Lmao manicotti or "manicot'" as some Italian-Americans say is IMO such a stereotypical Italian-American food.
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lol Funny thing about the mafia is they protect the neighborhood from turning into crap. That's said to be the case for areas like Morris Park, parts of Throggs Neck and Silver Beach and Locust Point, as well as Pelham Bay. As their influence declines, those neighborhoods have changed as well.
He most certainly was a junkie. That's why he kept coming up short to pay Chrissy. Christopher lets him know that it's unacceptable that he has money for getting high but not to pay up. That's when Tony sends in Furio to send both of them a message since the Asian chick was pretty hell bent on standing firm. lol
As for the accents, not all of the guys were Sicilian. Furio and Paulie's family were supposed to be from Naples (Campania region). I believe at least part of Tony's family was from the area as well (a small town nearby). I've been down there and have friends either from the region or near there. The Neapolitan dialect is distinct and funny as hell. Sounds beautiful when put to music (think Pino Daniele). Sicilian is a different animal entirely. The thing with dialects is they really aren't written but rather spoken so unless you speak it at home, good luck picking it up. My father's family spoke it (Siciliano) at home only, and I speak very little of it. When I lived in Italy, I lived in Tuscany, and thus I speak with a noticeable Florentine accent (very clean Italian). Tuscany doesn't have a real dialect. It's said to be the birthplace of Italian.
The ones in the mafia here or Italian-Americans crack me up. That scene with Carmela trying to bribe the Georgetown alumna with "rigot" pie (lol) (ricotta pie) cracks me up, since I speak Italian. I just love how they cut everything here. Another scene that has me laughing non-stop is when the three women are in Artie Buco's restaurant and one of them admits to planning their divorce, people start looking at them, and without thinking, one of them says "Effin nosy...Eat ya manicot'!" Lmao manicotti or "manicot'" as some Italian-Americans say is IMO such a stereotypical Italian-American food.
IIRC there was always an "us" versus" them between the "good" Italians of New Jersey and the "Mafia" guys and their wives. Those women in restaurant likely knew all about Carm, Rosalie and Angie (along with what their husbands did for a living), and looked down their noses. Just like when Paulie Walnuts gets his aunt into that retirement home and the other (respectable) Italian-American women pretty much tell him flat out they don't want anything to do with her.
As for food, don't get me started. It's like the whole "gabagool" debate.
IIRC there was always an "us" versus" them between the "good" Italians of New Jersey and the "Mafia" guys and their wives. Those women in restaurant likely knew all about Carm, Rosalie and Angie (along with what their husbands did for a living), and looked down their noses. Just like when Paulie Walnuts gets his aunt into that retirement home and the other (respectable) Italian-American women pretty much tell him flat out they don't want anything to do with her.
As for food, don't get me started. It's like the whole "gabagool" debate.
LMAO@Rosalie Aprile... That's the scene. I think the show accurately depicted what Italian-American neighborhoods are like with mob ties. The mafiosi are revered but scorned at the same time. They protect the neighborhood but also bring other issues to the area so it's a give and take situation. While the rule is to never hurt or kill civilians, that doesn't mean that they can't be caught in the crossfire. That youngster who was almost killed in the Locust Point area over the summer... I couldn't imagine walking out of my residence and seeing that go down on my way to work. That area is a very quiet safe area. Basically a subsection of Throggs Neck.
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That scene where he beats the crap out of that junkie and his girlfriend is hilarious. He keeps saying don't worry in Italian and then continues punching the crap out of the woman and the guy. Any thought that they were going to not pay up were pretty much made nil by his actions.
