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You mean that in Italy there arent bad and dirty neighborhoods ? I recall Belmont being cleaner at one time in the recent past. I know that Morris Park and Throggs Neck that have Italians in them are also clean. Yet, I know that in Morris Park and Throggs Neck, cause my sisters own houses there, have Hispanics and non Italians and beautify their homes. Its about neighbors, landlords caring. Also how visitors to neighborhoods percieve them. I for one know that teachers, construction workers, and people who shop on my block in Castle Hill usually dont litter on my quiet block which is well tended by the Hispanic and Black owners of the one and two family homes. And I have been known to sweep up across the street, which does not have any houses, where people who park, often outsiders, and empty their cars dirt onto the curb. Its just about home owners as you said caring. I blame programs like section 8 and absentee landlords who take any tenant with a voucher and City policies who promote the rights of bad tenants for dirty areas.
Absolutely Correct. That's why I stated in my earlier post if all communities employed the same ideas and not just a few the city would be a much more beautiful place to live. My post was based on experiences growing up in the 60's and on. Every neighborhood back then that had an Italian population was beautifully kept while other neighborhoods were not. This does not say anything bad about other people. Since those days I have witnessed many people caring about their neighborhoods. Back then it was a totally different story. These are just facts. My response to the post and New York neighborhoods jolted my experiences of the Italian community and I had to share these facts. Mind you ,since 1965 the immigration policies employed restricted Europeans from entering to give other cultures a chance. The Italian population at most in any neighborhood in New York is approximately 50% plus at most and 25% or less across the rest of the country. As I travel within the U.S.A. I have yet to see a neighborhood with a majority Italian population that is bad or dirty. If I ever do I will be most interested as to finding out why. It is in Italian culture that a well kept home was a sign of success and wealth. If this no longer holds true today then it is what it is
and nothing more.
We live in Bedford Park, and the NYBG was one of the things that attracted us to the neighborhood. As others said, Pelham Parkway is next to the park too, and Belmont and Norwood are close also. Woodlawn is only a few minutes on the metro north and Van Cortlandt Village is within walking distance.
How many minutes would it take you to walk to NYBG? Do you walk your babies in the garden? Is it great?
Absolutely Correct. That's why I stated in my earlier post if all communities employed the same ideas and not just a few the city would be a much more beautiful place to live. My post was based on experiences growing up in the 60's and on. Every neighborhood back then that had an Italian population was beautifully kept while other neighborhoods were not. This does not say anything bad about other people. Since those days I have witnessed many people caring about their neighborhoods. Back then it was a totally different story. These are just facts. My response to the post and New York neighborhoods jolted my experiences of the Italian community and I had to share these facts. Mind you ,since 1965 the immigration policies employed restricted Europeans from entering to give other cultures a chance. The Italian population at most in any neighborhood in New York is approximately 50% plus at most and 25% or less across the rest of the country. As I travel within the U.S.A. I have yet to see a neighborhood with a majority Italian population that is bad or dirty. If I ever do I will be most interested as to finding out why. It is in Italian culture that a well kept home was a sign of success and wealth. If this no longer holds true today then it is what it is
and nothing more.
The old Italy didn't have many bad areas back in the day, but with all of illegal migrants coming from Africa and Eastern Europe, there are definitely some problems, but Matteo Salvini is shipping them back in droves so he's cleaning things up. Crime was starting to become out of control. His slogans are things such as "L'Italia per gli italiani" (Italy for the Italians) and Gli italiani prima di tutto (that translates to Italians first and foremost). He's very pro Trump and a protectionist just like Trump. He's determined to get the country turned around. He's blunt and direct and he's doing great things in the country.
The old Italy didn't have many bad areas back in the day, but with all of illegal migrants coming from Africa and Eastern Europe, there are definitely some problems, but Matteo Salvini is shipping them back in droves so he's cleaning things up. Crime was starting to become out of control. His slogans are things such as "L'Italia per gli italiani" (Italy for the Italians) and Gli italiani prima di tutto (that translates to Italians first and foremost). He's very pro Trump and a protectionist just like Trump. He's determined to get the country turned around. He's blunt and direct and he's doing great things in the country.
I have heard from Italians that tbere were filthy areas in Italy. In Rome and Naples I recall and tbat was not a result of Africans cause it was decades ago.
I have heard from Italians that tbere were filthy areas in Italy. In Rome and Naples I recall and tbat was not a result of Africans cause it was decades ago.
Naples has a trash problem that has been going on for a while. That is really mafia related since they make a fortune from trash. That's why you'll see random trash here and there. Not too long ago the government had to step in because it was a health issue. It would be crazy to expect a country that big to be spotless everywhere. Don't be absurd. The point is overall, the country is quite clean. In Florence the store owners will wash down their sidewalks with soapy water in the morning. Far better than what you see here that's for sure. Here you're lucky if they use a hose to wash down the sidewalks. There any garbage is kept in closed containers on the sidestreets.
The old Italy didn't have many bad areas back in the day, but with all of illegal migrants coming from Africa and Eastern Europe, there are definitely some problems, but Matteo Salvini is shipping them back in droves so he's cleaning things up. Crime was starting to become out of control. His slogans are things such as "L'Italia per gli italiani" (Italy for the Italians) and Gli italiani prima di tutto (that translates to Italians first and foremost). He's very pro Trump and a protectionist just like Trump. He's determined to get the country turned around. He's blunt and direct and he's doing great things in the country.
Tbat would work if Italians actually gave birth to Italians. Spain, Germany, France and all of Western Europe dont have kids. So your forced to have immigrants to fuel the economy and pay taxes. Funny, today the Roman Catholic Church declared Pope Paul 6 and Oscar Romero to be Saints.Paul declared that artificial birth control a sin. I dont agree with that but for sure he was onto something when it came to the declining birth rate of Western Europe. Tell your cousins in Europe to have four or more kids. Bishop Romero was killed for his bold stance agaignst oppression and injustice to the poor. His message I hope also is not lost in the openly nationalistic right wing governments emerging all over the place. Reality is all these countries need immigrants. Yet, they will hate them just as much as they need them.
Tbat would work if Italians actually gave birth to Italians. Spain, Germany, France and all of Western Europe dont have kids. So your forced to have immigrants to fuel the economy and pay taxes. Funny, today the Roman Catholic Church declared Pope Paul 6 and Oscar Romero to be Saints.Paul declared that artificial birth control a sin. I dont agree with that but for sure he was onto something when it came to the declining birth rate of Western Europe. Tell your cousins in Europe to have four or more kids. Bishop Romero was killed for his bold stance agaignst oppression and injustice to the poor. His message I hope also is not lost in the openly nationalistic right wing governments emerging all over the place. Reality is all these countries need immigrants. Yet, they will hate them just as much as they need them.
That is a myth. The needing immigrants thing that is. Capitalism needs it more so. Socialist countries are better off without immigrants. For example, Bernie's economic plan does better with closed borders.
That is a myth. The needing immigrants thing that is. Capitalism needs it more so. Socialist countries are better off without immigrants. For example, Bernie's economic plan does better with closed borders.
Someone has to pay FICA taxes to pay for Social Security. A Italian Argentine coworker told me Italy is liberal with giving people of Italian descent in South American Italian citizenship because Italy needs migrants. Italians are notorious for having one son, who lives at home supported by his parents until they die and never having a job. You need workers and if you dont birth them you have to import them. The US is not in the same degree of peril as Western Europe.
To the OP the Bronx. Explore the areas after rush hour by foot to see how many people are returning from work and to see how the area looks. Get a feel for a neighborhood you might like. Then if you find an apartment your interested in vist that building at night late and in the afternoon. Listen for loud noises, look for litter, and walk tbe building stairwells. As a lifelong l9ng Bronx Resident I can tell you that you have great building on one block and a building on the same block that is the pits. Dont know why that works out that way but it does. Tbey are nice places to live near BG East and West of it. All tbe neighborhoods near it can be hot and cold depending on tbe block or building. Good luck.
How many minutes would it take you to walk to NYBG? Do you walk your babies in the garden? Is it great?
I've always loved the garden and used to go on the bus when I lived in Inwood, which wasn't so bad, but still a pain. We moved here when my older one was in a stroller and younger one was still a baby and it's been great to have the garden right here. The zoo is also in walking distance so we'd have memberships to both and went very frequently, and didn't have to make a whole day out of doing either. My babies are in high school now, but we still go to the garden about 1x per week (my kids go less but they still go). It's also nice when friends come to visit, there's always things to do in the area, including Little Italy. I think it was a great place for them to grow up.
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