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Old 10-22-2018, 08:37 AM
 
Location: NYC
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The establishment parties all selling ponies here and you'll be all paying for their trickeries. NYC has always been owned and ran by the Democrat mafia.
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Old 10-22-2018, 09:26 AM
 
Location: On the Great South Bay
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The establishment parties all selling ponies here and you'll be all paying for their trickeries. NYC has always been owned and ran by the Democrat mafia.
For the most part for a very long time.

However, probably the two of the best mayors in the last hundred years, Rudy Giuliani and Fiorella LaGuardia (whom LaGuardia airport is named for) were Republicans. And a little further back there was Seth Low, a leading reformer against government corruption in the early 1900s.

Regardless of their politics, I think most people realize it is not good to live in a one party city or state. So if the Republicans could field in New York a liberal to moderate candidate with good name recognition, they can win the election. They just have to make an effort and not ignore the cities.
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Old 10-22-2018, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Manhattan
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For the most part for a very long time.

However, probably the two of the best mayors in the last hundred years, Rudy Giuliani and Fiorella LaGuardia (whom LaGuardia airport is named for) were Republicans. And a little further back there was Seth Low, a leading reformer against government corruption in the early 1900s.

Regardless of their politics, I think most people realize it is not good to live in a one party city or state. So if the Republicans could field in New York a liberal to moderate candidate with good name recognition, they can win the election. They just have to make an effort and not ignore the cities.
Don't forget the 47 years that Mike Bloomberg was mayor.
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Old 10-22-2018, 05:42 PM
 
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So then you are happy then with the Federal deficit this year





Do you know the meaning of hypocrisy?
Two wrongs don't make a right. I am a fiscal conservative and I am extremely disappointed in the national Republican party on many levels. On a local level, I love having come here to NYC and would hate to see it go downhill due to fiscal profligacy.

Let me ask an honest question: How come a city and state with the highest tax rates and most liberal mindsets have a crumbing public housing system, schools where kids graduate middle school not knowing how to read, homelessness everywhere and a subway system on the fritz? Maybe instead of the answer always being "More Money" maybe it's "More Accountability".
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Old 10-23-2018, 06:05 AM
 
Location: Manhattan
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Let me ask an honest question: How come a city and state with the highest tax rates and most liberal mindsets have a crumbing public housing system, schools where kids graduate middle school not knowing how to read, homelessness everywhere and a subway system on the fritz? Maybe instead of the answer always being "More Money" maybe it's "More Accountability".

The City has neither the highest taxes nor the most liberal mindsets, and public housing, while dismal because of the "out of site, out of mind" mentality and incompetence of City managers, the buildings are NOT quite "crumbling" but are still standing AND providing homes for 400,000 residents.


If Public Housing is "on the fritz" it is not because too much money has been spent on it but rather because too little has been spent since the 1960's and 70's.
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Old 10-23-2018, 07:41 AM
 
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I'm socially liberal in literally all issues but one: that of illegal immigration. I'll vote for anyone who vows to deport illegal immigrants. Enough is enough.
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Old 10-23-2018, 08:01 AM
 
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the establishment parties all selling ponies here and you'll be all paying for their trickeries. Nyc has always been owned and ran by the democrat mafia.
^^100%^^
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Old 10-23-2018, 08:59 AM
 
Location: NYC
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Let me ask an honest question: How come a city and state with the highest tax rates and most liberal mindsets have a crumbing public housing system, schools where kids graduate middle school not knowing how to read, homelessness everywhere and a subway system on the fritz? Maybe instead of the answer always being "More Money" maybe it's "More Accountability".
Because socialism is a failed policy. Even the liberal politicians know that. Its difficult to maintain and sustain. It's better to simply cut people loose and let them figure it out themselves. China's communism is the perfect example. They already gave up communism and socialism, now they leave people to fend for themselves. They make bigger progress over the last 30 years than America has the last 60 years.

Better to teach people how to fish than give them fish.
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Old 10-23-2018, 09:13 AM
 
Location: JC
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Because socialism is a failed policy. Even the liberal politicians know that. Its difficult to maintain and sustain. It's better to simply cut people loose and let them figure it out themselves. China's communism is the perfect example. They already gave up communism and socialism, now they leave people to fend for themselves. They make bigger progress over the last 30 years than America has the last 60 years.

Better to teach people how to fish than give them fish.

This is comically inaccurate.
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Old 10-23-2018, 09:28 AM
 
Location: NYC
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This is comically inaccurate.
What's comical is the so called Democrats compassion. Nothing but tax and spend policies to drain the middle class and prop their voting base.

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I'm socially liberal in literally all issues but one: that of illegal immigration. I'll vote for anyone who vows to deport illegal immigrants. Enough is enough.
I hung out with some folks that work at Google and they said in a decade or so automation will take care of illegals.
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