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Old 12-06-2018, 05:19 PM
 
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That's a new word for me. Not sure I agree, but you can read for yourselves.

New York City’s mobility crisis has reached a tipping point
By Diana Budds

https://ny.curbed.com/platform/amp/2...obility-crisis
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Old 12-07-2018, 06:49 AM
 
Location: NY
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Great Post....
Of course the Mayor is not on board.
Alternative means of transportation means less cars in the city and his futile attempt
give reason to create tolls on all bridges below 60th st to reduce congestion will simply " poof " vanish.
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Old 12-07-2018, 07:23 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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I can't stand these made up concepts like "micro-mobility"... this ridiculous issue certainly hasn't reached a "tipping point", because it's not a real issue.Legalizing Ebikes and scooters would not incentivize people who drive to switch to those...it would just add a bunch of these unsafe, slow moving vehicles (99% of which would be delivery guys) to the roadways where cars and regular bikes are having a hard time coexisting already. This hippy-dippy article talks about sustainability....if driving in the city is so "unsustainable", then why do 40% of households in the city have a car? Why is parking so hard to find even in residential areas? Millions of people in the city drive and have no plans to change that, yet we're supposed to focus on infrastructure for third world E-Bikes instead?
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Old 12-07-2018, 09:09 AM
 
Location: New York City
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That's a new word for me. Not sure I agree, but you can read for yourselves.

New York City’s mobility crisis has reached a tipping point
By Diana Budds

https://ny.curbed.com/platform/amp/2...obility-crisis
the words "Vision Zero" make DeBlasio very horny
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Old 12-07-2018, 09:49 AM
 
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It's more like Vision mod cut
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the words "Vision Zero" make DeBlasio very horny

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Old 12-07-2018, 10:16 AM
 
Location: New York City
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It's more like Vision mod cut
More like Vision Hallucinating - you can't get zero casualties on public roads. It's completely impossible

Not that he won't try, eventually all cars will need to be completely encircled by 6 inch thick bubble wrap and go no more than 4.1 miles per hour with NYPD photo radar on every single block

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Old 12-07-2018, 11:27 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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Great Post....
Of course the Mayor is not on board.
Alternative means of transportation means less cars in the city and his futile attempt
give reason to create tolls on all bridges below 60th st to reduce congestion will simply " poof " vanish.
Are you kidding? De Blasio hates the tolls because he's a driver and intensely pro-car. He's the man behind the opposition to congestion pricing in Albany.

Not shocking that De Blasio opposes literally anything that isn't about expanding parking/cars. "Vision Zero" for him is even about shifting the blame to cyclists and pedestrians instead of enforcing driving laws.
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Old 12-07-2018, 12:01 PM
 
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I can't stand these made up concepts like "micro-mobility"... this ridiculous issue certainly hasn't reached a "tipping point", because it's not a real issue.Legalizing Ebikes and scooters would not incentivize people who drive to switch to those...it would just add a bunch of these unsafe, slow moving vehicles (99% of which would be delivery guys) to the roadways where cars and regular bikes are having a hard time coexisting already. This hippy-dippy article talks about sustainability....if driving in the city is so "unsustainable", then why do 40% of households in the city have a car? Why is parking so hard to find even in residential areas? Millions of people in the city drive and have no plans to change that, yet we're supposed to focus on infrastructure for third world E-Bikes instead?
Thank you!! Many people, even in pre automobile neighborhoods like Crown Heights, Bed Stuy, Bushwick, etc. CHOOSE to own cars even though most of them will have to spend a lot of time finding a spot when they come from work.

I think we have a good balance now, and I don't want the city to do things to discourage or encourage driving.
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Old 12-07-2018, 12:04 PM
 
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Are you kidding? De Blasio hates the tolls because he's a driver and intensely pro-car. He's the man behind the opposition to congestion pricing in Albany.

Not shocking that De Blasio opposes literally anything that isn't about expanding parking/cars. "Vision Zero" for him is even about shifting the blame to cyclists and pedestrians instead of enforcing driving laws.
If he was so pro-car, he wouldn't have lowered the speed limit to 25. Which is something that improves pedestrian safety.
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Old 12-07-2018, 12:07 PM
 
Location: NY
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I can't stand these made up concepts like "micro-mobility"... this ridiculous issue certainly hasn't reached a "tipping point", because it's not a real issue.Legalizing Ebikes and scooters would not incentivize people who drive to switch to those...it would just add a bunch of these unsafe, slow moving vehicles (99% of which would be delivery guys) to the roadways where cars and regular bikes are having a hard time coexisting already. This hippy-dippy article talks about sustainability....if driving in the city is so "unsustainable", then why do 40% of households in the city have a car? Why is parking so hard to find even in residential areas? Millions of people in the city drive and have no plans to change that, yet we're supposed to focus on infrastructure for third world E-Bikes instead?


Agreed. The people you refer to with cars will not cast them aside. It's the folks that do not have them, thinking of
getting one but now are presented with a cheaper alternative which if it takes off will keep future potential car owners
off the road and the current congestion problem status quo.
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