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Old 12-30-2018, 12:42 PM
 
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Hear, hear! The working people need this.
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Old 12-30-2018, 01:48 PM
 
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You're not supposed to raise a family on minimum wage. These are supposed to be the entry level jobs kids and maybe seniors who want a little extra income get.


Don't have kids if you can't afford them.
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Old 12-30-2018, 02:02 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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You're not supposed to raise a family on minimum wage. These are supposed to be the entry level jobs kids and maybe seniors who want a little extra income get.


Don't have kids if you can't afford them.
Agreed. Half of the people stand around doing nothing but chit chatting and BSing all day. Hardly worth $15 an hour.
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Old 12-30-2018, 02:22 PM
 
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You're not supposed to raise a family on minimum wage. These are supposed to be the entry level jobs kids and maybe seniors who want a little extra income get.


Don't have kids if you can't afford them.
With this generation...where you gonna find kids to work these days? Most never had to work in high school now a days and if they work in college it summers only.

You want to eat, shop, enjoy leisure activities...well people need to work those jobs and you don't have kids lining up to fill them.
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Old 12-30-2018, 03:01 PM
 
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Only "kids" earning minimum wage in NY are mostly minorities and those of certain immigrants (legal or otherwise).


In general much of the demographic earning minimum wage is the same as above, various minorities and immigrants (again legal or otherwise).


*THIS* is why there is so much noise about raising wages for what are supposed to be entry level/low skilled jobs. You have the usual suspects that for various reasons aren't or haven't done much better with their lives and find themselves at 30, 40, or whatever working a MW job and attempting to raise a family or otherwise live.
https://www.democratandchronicle.com...ses/521919002/


Go into any Starbucks, supermarket (non union), or wherever else you find MW jobs and you'll see what I'm talking about.
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Old 12-30-2018, 03:07 PM
 
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Where I live $15./hr would not even pay rent.
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Old 12-30-2018, 03:11 PM
 
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Where I live $15./hr would not even pay rent.

At $15/hr. providing someone got a full 8 hours per day is only:


$120/day
$600/week
$31.200/year


That is before FICA and other taxes. Still poverty wages regardless, especially for a HCL place like NY.
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Old 12-30-2018, 03:26 PM
 
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You're not supposed to raise a family on minimum wage. These are supposed to be the entry level jobs kids and maybe seniors who want a little extra income get.


Don't have kids if you can't afford them.
You are not supposed to have kids if you are making minimum wage.
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Old 12-30-2018, 03:26 PM
 
Location: NY
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Some of the hardest jobs are those that pay min wage.
Don't be so judgmental. Not everyone is from the means to be able to go get an advanced degree.
You're making double at the example you just gave. Who'd choose a job making $15 when they could get $30
Explain why layoffs are coming.
Not being judgmental. Being realistic.
I'm not knocking any employment just the city that is so out of touch................
In a skilled trade or vocation you must meet continuous requirements.
You must sacrifice 4 years of vocational training day in and day out all on your dime.
You must continue the ongoing education just to keep your job.
There are city tests you must pass just to maintain your position and even more if you want to advance.
If you fail any of these courses you are out................
It's no different than being in the military.
Military PT must meet the minimum physical regardless of age,years of service or you are out.
Not many people know this. Not many people care to know this.
With more money comes that much more responsibility not less.
I started from these no nothing jobs as many others, and worked my way into a career.
So can everybody else but it comes at a very high cost. You are not handed $30 bucks just because you are nice.
There is a huge,huge difference between skilled and non skilled trade.
Skilled trades are much harder than tending bar,washing dishes, serving food, packing or working a register.
If you don't mind minimal wage going to $15 an hour then don't mind skilled trades starting at $45............
With higher wages comes higher prices and eventually more layoffs as bosses condense work responsibilities
on to others just to keep competitive and without loss of profit. This happens across all fields of employment.
As a matter of fact I'm all for $15 an hour for minimum wage and won't be surprised if the skilled trades make
demands for higher pay soon. Just don't cry when your grocery prices double or triple................

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Old 12-30-2018, 03:38 PM
 
Location: NY
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Mouth of Albany like every other democrat politician in this state is rather good at giving away other people's money.


However as Margaret Thatcher pointed out, the problem with giving away other people's money is you sooner or later run out of it.


Thankyou BugsyPal.................
If only the politicians would listen to these great words of wisdom.
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