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Old 01-07-2019, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Manhattan
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I have no sympathy, they're still gonna get high rents even with a full L train shutdown.
Well, some of them are now upset because they offered "discounts" on the rent due to the impending L train shut down that has (for now) been averted. They'd like to kick it up back to market rate.
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Old 01-07-2019, 11:06 AM
 
Location: New York City
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Well, some of them are now upset because they offered "discounts" on the rent due to the impending L train shut down that has (for now) been averted. They'd like to kick it up back to market rate.
haha yeah right good luck with that
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Old 01-07-2019, 11:19 AM
 
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Well, some of them are now upset because they offered "discounts" on the rent due to the impending L train shut down that has (for now) been averted. They'd like to kick it up back to market rate.
Whatever people are willing to pay for it IS market rate.
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Old 01-07-2019, 01:57 PM
 
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Either that, or the MTA was full of $hit. I suspected as much. Now this doesn't mean Cuomo isn't full of $hit also. But now that he put this on the table, I think reality will be revealed.

I thought the whole Canarsie Tunnel project rebuild needed a thorough outside review. I didn't see any reason this needed to take fifteen months with a full shutdown, but I'm not an engineer. I'd be interested if to see in Cuomo's people published the results of their review.

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lol, short term money instead of long term solutions. You can't make this stuff up.
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Old 01-07-2019, 07:30 PM
 
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That is sooooo overblown it's not even funny. People act like all those commuters would stop working in Manhattan and everyone would abandon billyburg. If the L closed for a year people would definitely find a way to get there. The JMZ trains aren't much further, there are buses bikes and walking across the bridge, you can take the G to the 7, and there's ferry service.

There would be no "massive economic damage" and actually almost no damage at all except to the sleep patterns of people getting up earlier and getting home later
That's considerable damage to realtors. They invested a lot of money in these areas, only to have them made less marketable.

So of course they want to state officials, and now there will be no full 15 month total shutdown. The MTA will have to do it's repairs nights and weekends, which SHOULD have been the plan ALL along.
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Old 01-07-2019, 08:06 PM
 
Location: Eric Forman's basement
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More details about the new plan. And federal approval might be needed. The announcement happened fast, but I have a feeling that we won't see Cuomo's brainchild breaking ground for quite a while.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/07/n....co/5W3j1aLkXj
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Old 01-07-2019, 08:25 PM
 
Location: Harlem, NY
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They need to stick with the original plan. Fix the tunnels, because they’re old and corroded, before the whole thing caves in and the MTA has to shell out even MORE money for a fix they could’ve prevented
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Old 01-07-2019, 08:25 PM
 
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More details about the new plan. And federal approval might be needed. The announcement happened fast, but I have a feeling that we won't see Cuomo's brainchild breaking ground for quite a while.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/07/n....co/5W3j1aLkXj
I think it will happen on schedule as the tunnel has to be repaired, and the decision has already been made to only do the repairs on weekends and nights.

Byford has said the repairs will last 40 years, which is a long time.

Cuomo got engineers from Cornell and Columbia University to come up this plan.

This is something I always wondered, instead of turning to the same overinflated consulting companies why didn't the city and state turn to universities or even innovative private companies that might have better ideas.

Cuomo has at least stepped up on this, and should ask the universities for advice on upgrades and expansions in general.

Ditto more innovative private sector companies.
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Old 01-07-2019, 08:26 PM
 
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They need to stick with the original plan. Fix the tunnels, because they’re old and corroded, before the whole thing caves in and the MTA has to shell out even MORE money for a fix they could’ve prevented
No, that has already been decided that will not happen. The Brooklyn real estate lobby is now powerful enough to block this.

Besides we all know the MTA would never have shutdown a major Manhattan trunk line for 15 months. They simply underestimated the newfound power of Brooklyn's gentrified areas.
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Old 01-07-2019, 08:27 PM
 
Location: Harlem, NY
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Cuomo went rogue and announced this plan prematurely without the MTA’s input.
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