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Old 02-26-2019, 08:36 AM
 
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relevant details for general public to go out later today but you (reactionary) folks here:

The MTA Transformation Plan would include a congestion pricing financing model. Electronic tolling devices would be installed on the perimeter of the Central Business District (CBD) defined as streets south of 61st St. in Manhattan. The FDR Drive will not be included in the Central Business District. The electronic tolling system will account for tolls previously paid by drivers entering Manhattan from designated crossings. The system will be installed and operated pursuant to an MOU between the City of New York and the MTA for the purposes of ensuring the timely completion of the installation of congestion infrastructure in order to effectuate a congestion pricing plan, and recognizing the expertise of the TBTA for purposes of running and operating cashless tolling systems and City agencies for purposes of the use and impact of infrastructure installation on City streets. Tolls would be variable providing discounts for off-peak hour travel. Emergency vehicles will be exempt from congestion pricing tolls. Other exemptions or discounts will be provided to a limited group of vehicles entering the CBD including vehicles operated by or transporting people with disabilities and individuals who have an identifiable hardship or limited ability to access medical facilities in the CBD. Congestion pricing tolls would be supplemented with State and City revenue from a fixed amount of the new internet sales tax derived from sales in New York City, with a growth factor, and a percentage of the State and City revenue from the cannabis excise tax. Congestion pricing revenue and these two taxes will be placed in a 'lockbox' to provide a funding source necessary to ensure the capital needs of the MTA can be met, with priority given to the subway system, new signaling, new subway cars, track and car repair, accessibility, buses and bus system improvements and further investments in expanding transit availability to areas in the outer boroughs that have limited mass transit options. Tolls will be set once the electronic infrastructure is in place and a Capital Plan is finalized but will in no event be set later than December 2020.


please keep in mind, the 10-point plan is a proposal and still needs to pass the legislature.
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Old 02-26-2019, 08:43 AM
 
Location: JC
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I do like the idea of funding that can only be used for the MTA and not dipped into to fund yet another social welfare program.
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Old 02-26-2019, 08:46 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn, New York
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I do like the idea of funding that can only be used for the MTA and not dipped into to fund yet another social welfare program.
Until the next admin decides to raid those funds.
Gotta get out of ̶A̶l̶c̶a̶t̶r̶a̶z̶ Manhattan to catch an uber.
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Old 02-26-2019, 02:13 PM
 
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Anytime someone says I'm introducing a 10 point plan on anything I just laugh

It does not take 10 points to fix the MTA only 3:

- Cut the bloat
- Import the BEST contractors from the top transportation cities
- Get the money from taxation that comes from legalizing marijuana and sex work
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Old 02-26-2019, 06:00 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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Anytime someone says I'm introducing a 10 point plan on anything I just laugh

It does not take 10 points to fix the MTA only 3:

- Cut the bloat
- Import the BEST contractors from the top transportation cities
- Get the money from taxation that comes from legalizing marijuana and sex work
Some of that plan with integrating the six sub-agencies is a step towards cutting the bloat as is potentially the use of design build contracts when doing capital improvements.

The best contractors means having a much more transparent bid process and that is important.

That last one isn't going to count for all that much as you'll either be levying such heavy fees that the black market still takes the lion's share of the market or you'll have it be reasonable, but you won't actually get all that much back. The system does need more funding to get it working well and even expanding, and congestion pricing is a route there as is having your representative fight harder for getting back some of that federal tax revenue into spending. Another is that with the roll-out of a nfc system that can be better tracked, NYC and the Tri-State Area should consider creating cards issued to NYC residents at the prices mentioned and a sticker price for others that is higher. A lockbox on some funds to go towards transit does make sense though.

The major point potentially missing is integrating regional transit in general or at least a statement of doing so. Centralizing the six sub agencies can be a major step towards that, but we also need PATH and NJT Transit onboard, even as different agencies, to really make use of the vast existing infrastructure we have to be more effective. It is ridiculous that the compatible NJT Train and LIRR systems do not have linked routes. Even routes that do a loop back at Secaucus Junction for LIRR trains (once the Gateway Program or whatever it is called now is finished) and NJT Trains should carry people when they loop back at Sunnyside Yards with actual stations within that heavy corridor especially a Midtown East and a LIC stop.

The outlines of the plan thus far are good and now it's time to get the details for implementation. The sad thing is that it has taken this long for some of the very obvious moves this plan outlines to even have been put to serious consideration.
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Old 02-26-2019, 07:40 PM
 
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good luck
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Old 02-26-2019, 08:06 PM
 
Location: NYC
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Yeah Right!!!
Whats going to happen with congestion pricing once the MTA is FIXED?
Just think it'll be a big money maker, and to top it off just wait and see when all motorists get charged to cross all the city bridges. Then What?
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Old 02-26-2019, 08:29 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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Yeah Right!!!
Whats going to happen with congestion pricing once the MTA is FIXED?
Just think it'll be a big money maker, and to top it off just wait and see when all motorists get charged to cross all the city bridges. Then What?
Well, hopefully capital expansion projects as just getting MTA into a good condition is a baseline. What needs to happen is expansion. The fact is that reliable mass transit is a force multiplier. You can add more lanes to highways, but they have massive losses in efficiency with every lane added so the more lanes added aren't proportional to the lanes added and land use policy for parking is a massive loss even when charging what are unpalatable increases for parking costs since the dwell time for parked cars taking up space is massive.
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Old 02-27-2019, 04:11 AM
 
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The outlines of the plan thus far are good and now it's time to get the details for implementation. The sad thing is that it has taken this long for some of the very obvious moves this plan outlines to even have been put to serious consideration.
It is frustrating because many of these projects have been proposed since the 30s and struck down multiple times as recently as the 90s and now this generation is stuck holding the bag.
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