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You can walk up and down the UES and find bait boxes galore; and yes they still have rats.
A friend lives on 80th near Second, and that block/corner is and has been infested to point of being overrun at times with rats. Yeah, city comes out and puts down poison which knocks down the number of rats. But a month or so later things are back where they started.
Problem is rats for most part are living in the sewers/underground; that is unless they've moved into a building. Baiting only works when you can clear out an established population of rats and keep more from ever setting up shop. This often just isn't possible for certain areas of NYC now because the rats are (again) underground.
All that construction for SAS didn't help, nor is the fact the UES like many other parts of the city is undergoing a construction boom. Whenever you demolish/gut renovate an old building, and or start digging holes in this city it displaces rats.
One saving grace of the new SAS line is they didn't go with ventilation grates that lead to street. You walk up Lexington from say 59th north towards 125th at night and you see rats climbing out/going into those subway grates.
Of course it is how it works. In the local environ the boxes are effective and deadly. These folks are claiming an internal infestation. That is exactly where the boxes work best. If the area is enveloped in rats they will return swiftly. Then you go to work on the buildings to stop rat incursions.
We live in an equestrian neighborhood. Got horses you are going to have rats. Once we find the sample boxes being hit we deploy the full set. Four weeks later they are gone. Works every time.
You also need to make sure the building is tight. Not all that difficult. Just fix all the cracks and holes.
Spent a couple of years in my youth as a cub engineer in a town house on 91st off Lex. We actually had a masslive animal colony on the first floor. Try doing rodent control when you have a couple of thousand rodents and sheep. However it is doable.
Its hard to believe that they paid that much a month for something like that. $43K a month? Its laughable someone will pay a years salary to live in UES for 1 month SMH.
You put out a couple of dozen poison boxes. In two weeks you take the rats to zero. When nothing eats the bait you declare success and pick up the boxes. Then you leave a couple of boxes out as a check. If nothing eats the bait no rats. If you get the bait nibbled you put out the boxes.
You cannot poison the rats as it can lead to second hand poisoning for other animals. The only way to stop the rats is to sterilize the females with bait boxes that affect their reproductive abilities.
Its hard to believe that they paid that much a month for something like that. $43K a month? Its laughable someone will pay a years salary to live in UES for 1 month SMH.
Renting of townhouses, mansions, country estates has been going on for a few hundred years, and is fairly common practice among the wealthy of United States, Great Britain and Europe. Because people on this board cannot roll like that is hardly a reason to call others "stupid".
Paying $43k for a month rental beats $28 million to own 166 East 81st.
For those who rent out their town homes or country estates it can be out of financial necessity, and or simply to bring in revenue that will cover taxes and other expenses instead of the place just sitting empty.
This particular home has been on market for some time without a nibble, so owners decided to make some money renting until a buyer comes along.
For those renting such properties there are various reasons. Wealthy families may not want to stay in a hotel for a month or months on end, especially if they have children/large household in tow.
You cannot poison the rats as it can lead to second hand poisoning for other animals. The only way to stop the rats is to sterilize the females with bait boxes that affect their reproductive abilities.
Nonsense. Virtually the whole country uses the poison boxes. Find them all around the base of hospitals in most of the US. The risk would be to domestics that gain access to the dead rodents. Don't let them.
Of course it is how it works. In the local environ the boxes are effective and deadly. These folks are claiming an internal infestation. That is exactly where the boxes work best. If the area is enveloped in rats they will return swiftly. Then you go to work on the buildings to stop rat incursions.
We live in an equestrian neighborhood. Got horses you are going to have rats. Once we find the sample boxes being hit we deploy the full set. Four weeks later they are gone. Works every time.
You also need to make sure the building is tight. Not all that difficult. Just fix all the cracks and holes.
Spent a couple of years in my youth as a cub engineer in a town house on 91st off Lex. We actually had a masslive animal colony on the first floor. Try doing rodent control when you have a couple of thousand rodents and sheep. However it is doable.
You are speaking about ridding a structure or confined area of rats; we're discussing an entire city block or similar, not the same thing at all.
Ridding a farm, house and attending grounds of rats is far easier than dealing with an urban block. Again because the rats are in sewers/underground. Thus unless total population is destroyed those who survive will only breed and replace. This is particularly true if there is plenty of food and safe harborage conditions.
It is now; but not that long ago rat issues were really only heard about in "hood" areas.
This simply is not true as someone who lived in over 20 apartments/neighborhoods you see rats all over. In the 90's I lived across from Lincoln Center and there were rats issues. That area was not hood.
It has to do with old buildings and the garbage pick up service the city has. Landlords need to spend the money to patch up every hole in their buildings. Most are too lazy and cheap to inspect and find all the holes so outside critters from the street come in.
You are speaking about ridding a structure or confined area of rats; we're discussing an entire city block or similar, not the same thing at all.
Ridding a farm, house and attending grounds of rats is far easier than dealing with an urban block. Again because the rats are in sewers/underground. Thus unless total population is destroyed those who survive will only breed and replace. This is particularly true if there is plenty of food and safe harborage conditions.
Not trying to minimize the problem. But you have resources. We do not. There is no public health organization going to use municipal money and skills to deal with the rats.
Maybe you need to deal with the competence of your municipality.
And in this case it is dealing with a single building. Yes you may have to isolate yourself from the neighborhood but that is doable.
This simply is not true as someone who lived in over 20 apartments/neighborhoods you see rats all over. In the 90's I lived across from Lincoln Center and there were rats issues. That area was not hood.
It has to do with old buildings and the garbage pick up service the city has. Landlords need to spend the money to patch up every hole in their buildings. Most are too lazy and cheap to inspect and find all the holes so outside critters from the street come in.
Actually know exactly where that townhouse is; and yes that corner of 81st and Third is infested with rats. Has been for years, so much so many of us wondered why Madonna would buy a mansion on the block.
I won't walk down that block at night, or if I do it is in the street.
In fact East 81st from really about halfway down from Lexington going past Third and really Second onto First is full of rats.
IMHO many parts of Yorkville have problems with rats because those old tenement/walk-up apartment buildings have no place to keep trash. Nearly all have cans or bins in front of buildings that frequently are over flowing. This or trash is simply left in plastic bags. Three times a week those bags are moved to curb for collection, but that doesn't change things.
As it relates to East 81st and Third, there are and have been restaurants on west side of avenue from 80th to 81st looping around to just a few doors from the townhouse in question. Each night they all throw out plastic bags filled with food waste.
The UES really is bad with rats. You even see the problem manifest itself in the subway stations in that area. The rat problem down there is much, much worse than I've seen in stations anywhere else in the city. Note, downtown Brooklyn also has a bad rat problem, but the UES seems significantly worse.
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