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Old 03-07-2019, 03:53 PM
 
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I don't understand. What's so difficult about being held accountable to hire LOCAL people who already live in the area?

NYC has a PLETHORA of talent. There is NO NEED to import!!!! Commit to hiring and training locally and you will have ZERO resistance!!!

But it CAN'T be just lip service. We need to see plans, terms and conditions.
This is a city of Transplants. People are so weird when they complain about businesses not hiring locally. The person you are standing next to on the train probably just moved here a few months ago and then in another 10 years that same transplant would be complaining about other transplants.
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Old 03-07-2019, 03:57 PM
 
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This place doesn't have the infrastructure for more density that's the problem with your dense skull.
We have tons of infrastructure we just have to fix it

We need the money to fix it

That money comes from more revenue from businesses and high income people
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Old 03-07-2019, 04:35 PM
 
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NYC is out of space to build and that message should be sent a long time ago. This is a very bad area overall for infrastructure and commute in it's current state and I just wished that more businesses relocate outside of NYC so people don't have to be forced to commute into NYC all the time.

We have a NYC Subway that is over 100 years old and many tunnels could collapse without repair.

Roads are forever under repair and dangerous to drive in poor weather conditions.

Heavy congestion due to Uber/Lyft without keeping a lid on their numbers.

There are too many ethnic neighborhoods that are being squeezed by businesses and developers that are paranoid of more developers moving in.

DeBlasio's Affordable housing plans also requires rethinking instead of leasing expense real estate around the city sinking tax payer money.

We have businesses like Amazon that likes to think that their money can buy anything anywhere they want without any pushback.

There just isn't enough open land here in NYC unless there is some major changes or the mayor or governor relocate poor people out of NYC.
And how do you think the city will afford to fix all the problems you list if only affordable housing residents and legit poor people are encouraged to live here while buiness is encouraged to leave?
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Old 03-07-2019, 07:08 PM
 
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Wow, that would be an epic failure if that is derailed--15,000 created jobs potentially lost.

You have to wonder why NYC politicians seem to be pushing out/cancelling job creation. Ultimately that leads to population loss, which leads to tax revenue loss--which is actually currently happening. Yikes.
It was in the article, and it was the same factors for Queens. Amazon coming to LIC would have sped up displacement of Hispanic and Asian residents. Ditto for Industry City in Brooklyn. The city council members and state legislatures from those communities were looking out for their constituents.

Of course they are really fighting a loosing battle, with or without Amazon and Industry City these communities will either ultimately have to move up socioeconomically, or they will be displaced.
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Old 03-07-2019, 07:12 PM
 
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The space is very community oriented and family friendly. When I was there around the holidays, they had so many FREE events and lots of activities for children. There was live music, free food samples, games and crafts for kids. It was great.

It’s sad that when some people see these types of developments, they see the changes as a four letter word. I’m in agreement with what others have said in this threat: it’s as if they are fighting to keep the poor, poor. If you really cared about your poor constituents, you wouldn’t be fighting against things like job creation. You’d be fighting to make sure they, and most importantly their kids, are able to compete for these types of jobs that the changes bring. You’d want to fight for services to help them better succeed in the long run. Not for services that keep them poor and complacent.
The reasons why this happens though, is companies don't go out of their way to hire NYC's ethnic poor. So if you KNOW you aren't going to directly benefit from these changes, why would you actively fight for them?

The city and the corporate sector can SOLVE this problem, by working to incorporate these neighborhoods and the PEOPLE into them into the mainstream society.
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Old 03-07-2019, 07:14 PM
 
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And how do you think the city will afford to fix all the problems you list if only affordable housing residents and legit poor people are encouraged to live here while buiness is encouraged to leave?
Quite clearly it will not be fixing any of these problems, without the massive money coming in from the corporate sector.

But the corporate sector and the right wing have fault in this as well. If people from NYC's poor ethnic communities were HIRED by corporations, they would not be interested in LEFTISTS who just want to give money to community or social programs.

But the attitude of some people on the right would be' "these people are taking their jobs". This is what happens when people are excluded.

Stop the exclusion and NYC can focus on economic expansion and on getting better politicians in office.
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Old 03-07-2019, 07:45 PM
 
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It was in the article, and it was the same factors for Queens. Amazon coming to LIC would have sped up displacement of Hispanic and Asian residents. Ditto for Industry City in Brooklyn. The city council members and state legislatures from those communities were looking out for their constituents.

Of course they are really fighting a loosing battle, with or without Amazon and Industry City these communities will either ultimately have to move up socioeconomically, or they will be displaced.
Asians are doing fine, and would likely be well represented at Amazon
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Old 03-07-2019, 08:12 PM
 
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Third world country.
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Old 03-07-2019, 09:35 PM
 
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Asians are doing fine, and would likely be well represented at Amazon
Asians in NYC are the poorest major demographic group.
https://www1.nyc.gov/site/opportunit...-new-york-city

Go to Central Queens and you will find plenty of Chinese, Indians, and Pakistanis with minimum wage or close to it jobs, living 50 people to one house.

The Asians who would be well represented in Amazon would have advanced degrees and speak English very well.

A lot of Asian immigrants DO NOT speak English very well. Go to an Asian neighborhood.
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Old 03-08-2019, 03:47 AM
 
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This is a city of Transplants. People are so weird when they complain about businesses not hiring locally. The person you are standing next to on the train probably just moved here a few months ago and then in another 10 years that same transplant would be complaining about other transplants.
I was born and raised in NY 5 boroughs.

Yes there's always been transplants but they comprised 20% of the population, not 80% like they do today.
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